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I’d rather see self servers like Manchin and Sinema take a hit than Cheney. and Kinzinger. we Liberals need not think we are holier than thou because someone is more conservative!

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It’s not conservative that I object to, it’s the corruption of conservatism that sometimes makes me feel holier than…

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True, Bur we “liberals” must also not go overboard. Centrist might be better for all.

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thing is, I have no idea what "centrist" means. anybody I can think of who described himself/herself (I lost a point on my English Regents, compromising a perfect score, and the mistake was subject/verb agreement, so I have trouble using "they") as "centrist." I even (now, at any rate) have a problem with "liberal," since "classic Liberalism" sounds a lot like Libertarianism and I'll shoot myself before identifying myself as possibly having anything in common with the Ayn Rand incel creeps who call themselves "Libertarians." this is why I call myself a "Social Democrat," although Tom says it's a "New York thing." it probably is, but I've been a New York thing since 1949 so why deny my heritage?

seriously, though...everyone I can think of who identifies as "centrist" looks to me like what was once called a "Rockefeller Republican." and for the record, I was raised to HATE Rockefeller lest it seems like I'm endorsing anything Republican.

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A good description of how far right American politics have been pulled. "Rockefeller Republican" is now "centrist."

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funny...I was just thinking about exactly that and I was just about ready to come to the same conclusion but stopped myself when I got the distinct feeling that today's "centrists" might well be a little bit to the RIGHT of the "Rockefeller Republicans." a little bit.

my own familial loathing of Rocky was his long-declared (and, alas, successful, even if he wasn't there anymore) mission to end free tuition at CUNY. quite enough, in my family.

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Much more detail than I was thinking. I just meant somewhere between Nazis and wackos😵‍💫

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Please correct your spelling of Kinzinger on the Jan 6 Committee. You spelled it the same as Henry's last name--Kissinger. (I know it's easy to do, unless you're on the spectrum, like I am, which makes these sorts of things jump out at you.) To edit: just click on the 3 dots 4th from the heart that you click on.

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Roger That. Thanks

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Probably a case of your AI spellcheck getting ahead of itself as usual.

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Damn spellchecks!

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Doubt if spellcheck new Kizinger snd Kissinger. I remember standing at the back of a news conference at San Clemente when a reporter asked Henry what he would like to be called as he was given a second duty. His response; Your Eminence 😊. Perk of being a standby copilot on Marine One.

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Were you on the crew that flew Nixon into "retirement" in August 74?

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No, Army had the Mission that day in DC. Marines took him from El Toro to San Clemente. ………,,,

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Jeez, that seems to me a stupid mistake to make. (One of my friends balanced luggage on El Al for a number of years, but then switched metiers to become a luthier.

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he gave himself a HUGE promotion. luthier is a magnificent profession. I've spent HOURS listening to them talk, and it's always been fascinating, even if my practical knowledge of guitars (and the other things as well, especially lutes) is pretty much nonexistent.

the very opposite of those "Bullshit Jobs" about which the much-mourned genius David Graeber wrote an uncharacteristically quick, breezily written book. terrible, terrible loss.

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True. And he's been quite happy as a luthier. Has a very nice studio in his house about 10 miles north of Charlottesville. If I remember correctly--going back ~30 years now--he had an apprenticeship in Italy, which he and his wife thoroughly enjoyed.

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You're welcome.

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