The more the SCOTUS majority deflect their duties to the states, the less they have to feel accountable for the obvious mismanagement of the law that has been apparent since Roberts took the big chair. Thomas and Alito aren’t the only ones who need to be gone. He makes the appellation Roberts Court a misnomer, every time he lets the conservative majority walk over him on their way to a “decision”.
Horrifyingly, it appears that no one is walking over roberts. In fact, HE is leading the parade to a full fascist dictatorship. He crafted the presidential immunity law and TOLD the other five to sign it. For real. I was beyond stunned to learn this recently.
“Thomas, the longest-serving justice on the bench and arguably the most conservative of the nine, has become more influential over the years, to the point that some commentators have declared him more powerful than Roberts.
Not this year, so very unlike 2022, when Thomas and other conservatives pushed through the Dobbs ruling and Roberts stood alone between embittered factions. The chief justice chided his colleagues on both sides for displaying “a relentless freedom from doubt on the legal issue.”
This year, he stepped to the right, and he displayed no doubt.”
He creeped me out 32 years ago. When he manipulated the white Democratic males in Congress by saying, "This is a high tech LYNCHING!!!" -- they all put their tails between their legs (and yes, Joe, you were the head of this Committee) and immediately voted the stinker in. By then, who gave a damn what Anita Hill had to say? And why listen to her witnesses, or to the other women whom he had sexually harassed and/or assaulted?
Indeed. Anita Hill was an uppity black woman. Why would all those white guys give her any respect. The things she said about Thomas were shocking to me.
It was awful. I was shocked, too. He was (and surely is still) DISGUSTING. Sheer misogyny, and racism before they only approved clearance so no one would think that THEY were "racists".
that's what I used to think, and I'm sure it's what we're SUPPOSED to think. but this recent leaked stuff about the remarkably active role Roberts took in leading his putz compatriots to issue the worst of their recent decisions buries that comfortable little myth very deep indeed.
Tom, thanks for saving me some keystrokes. Thank you also for, as always, fighting the good fight.
Life is a little hectic right now, recovering from Helene. Trees are down everywhere. I didn’t have major damage to my house, but if my neighbor hadn’t cut down 6 big pine trees last year, I might not be here. This is worse than the ice storm 10 years ago, when Jim Cantore himself came to Augusta. I’ve been over a week without running water (I have children close by, thank God, who still have theirs). I’ll get by.
You know, when she cutdown all those trees, I used to say to myself, jokingly, “You’re not from around here, are you?” Both of our houses face south, in Georgia. I treasure my shade, and grieve the loss. She cut down her afternoon shade. Now, all I feel is unending gratitude.
I like that you're bringing this information to us, Tom. But I hate the information, Why, in hell, isn't the AMA speaking out and condemning interference in what is after all a purely medical procedure that belongs in the sphere of medicine NOT law.
Thank you MaryPat for this link. I am so very happy and relieved the AMA is speaking out against this disgusting and dangerous intrusion of ignorant legislators on the medical field. I realize that some doctors, for purely religious reasons refuse to perform abortions under any circumstance and that is certainly their prerogative. Even if they own a clinic they have the right to disallow abortions in their own clinic, against their religious belief. But they have no right to try to prevent other physicians from performing life saving procedures on that physician's patients. That's the whole problem with religious fanatics, they insist that every one, in or out, of their church MUST share their same beliefs, Maggots like trump and jd vance care NOTHING about the abortion or the baby. their sole reason is control over all persons of the female gender. If they kill a few women here and there, who cares? There are too many women anyway. Both have stated that women should happy and satisfied under the dominance of the male.
I was going to post a comment but your second to last line says it all and I agree. I’m taking my tears and anger and channeling them into concrete action to defeat these MFSOB’s.
VP Harris is doing her part…and we all must do ours! Whatever is in your comfort zone.💲✍️📲🏃🏻♀️
Watch this short clip with her interview on Call Her Daddy podcast.Supposedly it’s the most popular podcast with women in America. She knocks it out of the park !!📣
I’ve voted. And donated. And written postcards. Now on to interpretive dance, then spells and incantations. I cannot believe women today have fewer rights in many ways than I did in my early twenties, which was a LONG time ago. Get out the cats and broomsticks ; prepare to ride.
Clearly women are going to have to save women. Recruit fem drivers who will take women from red states to blue states for medical care. Use planes, trains and Uber automobiles. Come back with shopping bags. There's a woman in Italy, I think, who travels the coastline by boat providing off-shore contraception, morning-after pills, and mifopristone. The currently vastly successful cocaine retail network could add some things to their menu. Guess what! Women are still going to get abortions, just as they always have. And if they get caught and have to appear in court they can always claim that some guy named Ken Paxton, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, et. al. is the father.
"The Supreme Court on Monday let stand a decision barring emergency abortions that violate the law in Texas." But no dissents?? Do you know how to explain that??
I'm guessing that there were not 4 justices voting to take up the appeal. In other words, 6 Justices of the Court declined to hear the appeal and chose to let the 5th District ruling stand.
The only consolation, if there is one, that perhaps some Texas women will finally realize that republicans do not see them as human beings and vote accordingly. If not, I find it hard to muster a lot of sympathy for them, and that hurts me to say it.
I don't blame you, and I did feel bad saying it. YOU don't deserve it. Unfortunately, too many women voters don't seem to realize that they are committing suicide. Come to think of it, anyone who votes for a republican is committing suicide!
There is a solution no one wants to think about. Make the MOTHER who has a medically "unnecessary" abortion the one facing criminal charges, not the doctors. They could then go ahead and provide the care necessary to save the mother's life--and could testify as to WHY if anyone tried to prosecute the mother. I suspect most juries would believe the doctor--it would be hard to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that it WAS "unnecessary."
I'm not sure if Texas could impose a criminal penalty for an abortion obtained where it is legal and then returned to Texas. THAT would face more of a "states rights" argument amenable to the Extremes and most states who allow abortions are also resisting providing medical records.
Criminalizing the woman would be way more unpopular and might spur even more activism.
of course it is. The point is here, who would be “criminalized?” Certainly not any of the cases we’ve been reading about where the doctor has been too scared of jail to take proper care. Even assuming a prosecutor was fool enough to try to go after such a woman, the outrage would be heightened far further than it is now.
Red states are already criminalizing women who act without doctors. In Louisiana, just HAVING an abortion pill, not even taking it, can send you to prison. Women are being accused of murder because their miscarriage was caused by an “unhealthy lifestyle.” At least if the statutes were consistent about who was “to blame” those needing help could get it without the doctor fearing giving it.
It is easy to say “something must be done to stop this.” The problem is how to GET that something done. If I have to choose between outrages, to get people’s attention, I’d choose criminalizing a mother over letting her die, anytime.
But mothers are “safe from jail” if not a coffin because the legislators KNOW that criminalizing the woman is a bridge too far. They just pass the deaths off as “God’s Will.”
Keep being frightfully reminded of just how high the stakes are; for the presidency as well as down the ballot.
Well, here’s thing, as I see it.
The more the SCOTUS majority deflect their duties to the states, the less they have to feel accountable for the obvious mismanagement of the law that has been apparent since Roberts took the big chair. Thomas and Alito aren’t the only ones who need to be gone. He makes the appellation Roberts Court a misnomer, every time he lets the conservative majority walk over him on their way to a “decision”.
Horrifyingly, it appears that no one is walking over roberts. In fact, HE is leading the parade to a full fascist dictatorship. He crafted the presidential immunity law and TOLD the other five to sign it. For real. I was beyond stunned to learn this recently.
Well, that’s disappointing.
“Thomas, the longest-serving justice on the bench and arguably the most conservative of the nine, has become more influential over the years, to the point that some commentators have declared him more powerful than Roberts.
Not this year, so very unlike 2022, when Thomas and other conservatives pushed through the Dobbs ruling and Roberts stood alone between embittered factions. The chief justice chided his colleagues on both sides for displaying “a relentless freedom from doubt on the legal issue.”
This year, he stepped to the right, and he displayed no doubt.”
I rep when Thomas was appointed. There was lots of talk about him being not very bright.
We were wrong.
("We" who?)
Those of us who engaged in the "lots of talk."
He creeped me out 32 years ago. When he manipulated the white Democratic males in Congress by saying, "This is a high tech LYNCHING!!!" -- they all put their tails between their legs (and yes, Joe, you were the head of this Committee) and immediately voted the stinker in. By then, who gave a damn what Anita Hill had to say? And why listen to her witnesses, or to the other women whom he had sexually harassed and/or assaulted?
Indeed. Anita Hill was an uppity black woman. Why would all those white guys give her any respect. The things she said about Thomas were shocking to me.
It was awful. I was shocked, too. He was (and surely is still) DISGUSTING. Sheer misogyny, and racism before they only approved clearance so no one would think that THEY were "racists".
Does somebody have a different view
No kidding.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html
"In past decades, when the justices took up major tests of presidential power, they achieved unanimity." Roberts didn't even both with trying.
Impeachment is a waste of time and money without 66 votes in the Senate. I wish I was wrong.
Vote Blue.
He's a really smooth jerk.
that's what I used to think, and I'm sure it's what we're SUPPOSED to think. but this recent leaked stuff about the remarkably active role Roberts took in leading his putz compatriots to issue the worst of their recent decisions buries that comfortable little myth very deep indeed.
Which justices demured? Voted to uphold lower court?
We need to guess??
Tom, thanks for saving me some keystrokes. Thank you also for, as always, fighting the good fight.
Life is a little hectic right now, recovering from Helene. Trees are down everywhere. I didn’t have major damage to my house, but if my neighbor hadn’t cut down 6 big pine trees last year, I might not be here. This is worse than the ice storm 10 years ago, when Jim Cantore himself came to Augusta. I’ve been over a week without running water (I have children close by, thank God, who still have theirs). I’ll get by.
Whoa! Talk about luck wrapping itself around you. Stay safe!
You know, when she cutdown all those trees, I used to say to myself, jokingly, “You’re not from around here, are you?” Both of our houses face south, in Georgia. I treasure my shade, and grieve the loss. She cut down her afternoon shade. Now, all I feel is unending gratitude.
Though , I have to say, the two she spared are now in my yard, hence, a little snark, along with contrition and gratitude.
Stay safe and good luck.
Thank you, Hannah.
All the Best to you, Camilla.
Thank you, MaryPat. I got my internet back on today. I feel normal again. Cheap romance novels only take you so far. 😉
I like that you're bringing this information to us, Tom. But I hate the information, Why, in hell, isn't the AMA speaking out and condemning interference in what is after all a purely medical procedure that belongs in the sphere of medicine NOT law.
Many physicians (and nurses) are speaking up. Many can't risk their livelihoods (maybe, in some states, their own lives?).
Official AMA position:
https://www.google.com/search?q=ama+position+on+reproductive+rights&oq=AMA+position+on+repro&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgCECEYoAEyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigAdIBCTEwMDQwajBqOagCC7ACAQ&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Thank you MaryPat for this link. I am so very happy and relieved the AMA is speaking out against this disgusting and dangerous intrusion of ignorant legislators on the medical field. I realize that some doctors, for purely religious reasons refuse to perform abortions under any circumstance and that is certainly their prerogative. Even if they own a clinic they have the right to disallow abortions in their own clinic, against their religious belief. But they have no right to try to prevent other physicians from performing life saving procedures on that physician's patients. That's the whole problem with religious fanatics, they insist that every one, in or out, of their church MUST share their same beliefs, Maggots like trump and jd vance care NOTHING about the abortion or the baby. their sole reason is control over all persons of the female gender. If they kill a few women here and there, who cares? There are too many women anyway. Both have stated that women should happy and satisfied under the dominance of the male.
Pretty fucking certain that even if we do win in 29 days, this will still be a fucking issue.
(Ed McMahon voice): You are, unfortunately, correct, sir!
Unreal. Is this 2024?
No. I think it's "1984".
2525? How likely are we hairless apes to ever see the truth of Zager and Evans musical prediction?
Covered here by The New Bardots https://youtu.be/I8snM4xUk6U
Haven't thought of that song in years.
Whoa. Forgot about this one. We must not forget.
Sure Texas, just let them
bleed out in the hospital
bathroom or parking lot.
Family planning the fascist
White Nationalist way.🤬
Think Project 2025. Think Opus Dei. Remember "the plan" for this country.
I was going to post a comment but your second to last line says it all and I agree. I’m taking my tears and anger and channeling them into concrete action to defeat these MFSOB’s.
VP Harris is doing her part…and we all must do ours! Whatever is in your comfort zone.💲✍️📲🏃🏻♀️
Watch this short clip with her interview on Call Her Daddy podcast.Supposedly it’s the most popular podcast with women in America. She knocks it out of the park !!📣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KCRsjPCiCI
Thank You, Kathy.
I’ve voted. And donated. And written postcards. Now on to interpretive dance, then spells and incantations. I cannot believe women today have fewer rights in many ways than I did in my early twenties, which was a LONG time ago. Get out the cats and broomsticks ; prepare to ride.
Clearly women are going to have to save women. Recruit fem drivers who will take women from red states to blue states for medical care. Use planes, trains and Uber automobiles. Come back with shopping bags. There's a woman in Italy, I think, who travels the coastline by boat providing off-shore contraception, morning-after pills, and mifopristone. The currently vastly successful cocaine retail network could add some things to their menu. Guess what! Women are still going to get abortions, just as they always have. And if they get caught and have to appear in court they can always claim that some guy named Ken Paxton, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, et. al. is the father.
"The Supreme Court on Monday let stand a decision barring emergency abortions that violate the law in Texas." But no dissents?? Do you know how to explain that??
That's not how the announcement of what cases they will take works. They don't list the votes.
I'm guessing that there were not 4 justices voting to take up the appeal. In other words, 6 Justices of the Court declined to hear the appeal and chose to let the 5th District ruling stand.
No.
The only consolation, if there is one, that perhaps some Texas women will finally realize that republicans do not see them as human beings and vote accordingly. If not, I find it hard to muster a lot of sympathy for them, and that hurts me to say it.
I’m a Texas woman who does not want to be lumped with red arses of either gender
I don't blame you, and I did feel bad saying it. YOU don't deserve it. Unfortunately, too many women voters don't seem to realize that they are committing suicide. Come to think of it, anyone who votes for a republican is committing suicide!
Couldn’t agree more
More women will die because of this.
Yes. Women are already dying. This just cements it in Texas.
Bastards.
There is a solution no one wants to think about. Make the MOTHER who has a medically "unnecessary" abortion the one facing criminal charges, not the doctors. They could then go ahead and provide the care necessary to save the mother's life--and could testify as to WHY if anyone tried to prosecute the mother. I suspect most juries would believe the doctor--it would be hard to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that it WAS "unnecessary."
I'm not sure if Texas could impose a criminal penalty for an abortion obtained where it is legal and then returned to Texas. THAT would face more of a "states rights" argument amenable to the Extremes and most states who allow abortions are also resisting providing medical records.
Criminalizing the woman would be way more unpopular and might spur even more activism.
Think about that. Criminalizing mothers. The whole point is to defeat these restrictive laws and get back to women taking control of their healthcare.
Not arresting them.
of course it is. The point is here, who would be “criminalized?” Certainly not any of the cases we’ve been reading about where the doctor has been too scared of jail to take proper care. Even assuming a prosecutor was fool enough to try to go after such a woman, the outrage would be heightened far further than it is now.
Red states are already criminalizing women who act without doctors. In Louisiana, just HAVING an abortion pill, not even taking it, can send you to prison. Women are being accused of murder because their miscarriage was caused by an “unhealthy lifestyle.” At least if the statutes were consistent about who was “to blame” those needing help could get it without the doctor fearing giving it.
It is easy to say “something must be done to stop this.” The problem is how to GET that something done. If I have to choose between outrages, to get people’s attention, I’d choose criminalizing a mother over letting her die, anytime.
But mothers are “safe from jail” if not a coffin because the legislators KNOW that criminalizing the woman is a bridge too far. They just pass the deaths off as “God’s Will.”
Women are always “guilty” where sex is concerned
Ya wanna you what I'm doing. Tom?
Driving a bunch of 10 penny nails into my eyes.Thank you. I'm ready for for 11/6 if that fucking scum steals 11/5