Just in case you find it hard to believe that Trump really said what he said last night - and it’s not unreasonable to have difficulty believing this - here is the PBS News Hour live coverage of the speech.
I reported the 'speech', DJT's intent to end all U.S. Voting rights, to the DOJ's "Action Center" & filed a formal complaint citing the U.S. Constitution, Section 2 of the remaining 1964 Civil Rights Act & other applicable Federal law.
I requested that Garland,DOJ appoint an independent Special Prosector under the controlling Federal statutes. Much more later.
Is there any legal way to restrain the 45th president from carrying out his plan to nullify the Constitution?
Do the people of the United States of America have standing to sue the 45th President to prevent him from carrying out his stated plans to overthrow the nation and shred our Constitution?
Is there any legal remedy to protect the USA from Donald pmurT?
Further thoughts on possible legal remedies to enjoin the promulgation (if that's the best term) of Project 2025.
Paradox: If we cannot enjoin them, or stop them before they have an opportunity to dismantle the United States government and the Constitutional order in our society, then we will never be able to stop them legally after they stage their coup because they will control the Department of Justice and the courts.
Some people might say that the only way to stop them is by voting in sufficient numbers to preclude their assumption of governing power. But we might reasonably assume that even if they don't win the election in November, they still intend to [edit: attempt to] seize power regardless of the law.
Maybe the only way to stop them is by prophylaxis: arrest the plotters for conspiracy to overthrow the United States government -- before they are able to execute their plans.
While reading Joyce Vance lately I've been watching for an appropriate context to make the point about conspiracy to commit sedition. I wonder if a retired US Attorney is in a delicate position when discussing such things. I would bet that the Justice Department has been talking about it internally.
Everybody, just Google "DOJ Complaint" which should get you to "Report A Crime or Submit a Complaint". I did the latter, filed a Complaint with the United States Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, civilrights.justice.gov
I have contact with a Law School Professor (not Joyce Vance) who is an expert on Federal "standing" in Federal Court. My status as a California November 2024 Presidential Election Worker solves a number of "standing" issues if things get heavy.
I have filed a number of threats of Violence at the same site. Do not hesitate to report intentional threats of violence at the same portal.
The Harris campaign needs to use this in national advertising after her nomination is secure. Rick Wilson was loudly calling it out. This is insane and MSM ignores it!
Yes, because he's telling America where he's going to grab us and how he's going to do it. Only the lame brained with no self-respect are going to let him do it.
Spending time in this man's head is crazy- making! I forced myself to endure it because of your urgent prompt, TC.
He pretzels the truth, projects all over the place, plays victim and superman all in one breath...and talks way too long. We know who he is. More concerning to me was the audience who call themselves Christian, applauding and chanting.
Curiously, in a room full of conservative Christians, he spent a lot of time on the Jewish faith and his "building" the embassy in Jerusalem. Did he forget which group he was addressing?
As others have said here, his delivery is so destructively charismatic that it masks his dissonance...you can be lulled into thinking he is making sense and/or speaking truth!
He was at that moment, at least. But, of course, he's speaking to his choir, so they'll think he's effective no matter what garbage spews from his mouth.
They have been prepared by Rupert and clones. I dismissed him as ineffective except for the nuts.. I see that I underestimated the appeal for some who are vulnerable, but not bat schitt crazy. Like some of my family, sad to say.
Okay, okay, I listened to more of it. You're right. Everyone should. "We'll put a windmill on top of our car." I can't believe his brainwashed minions believe the lies and vitriol that come out of his filthy mouth.
He really should learn how to pronounce Kamala's name.
He’s deliberately mispronouncing it to show his lack of respect for her. It’s just like republicans deliberately saying democrat party instead of Democratic Party.
The cult will love that. Hope MSM will report that speech ad nauseam. It’s the flip side (Side B, Devil lyrics) of Project 2025, which is the script for the oligarch’s reps (previously republicans).
Tom, I already know what he's like and what he wants to do to America/for himself and his cronies. I don't need to hear any new abominations or embellishments of old ones. Sorry, Tom. He has sickened me enough already. I will share the link, however, and ask people to listen to it if they have the stomach for it.
I’m with you 100 percent. I couldn’t get past the music and seeing him pacing back and forth.I’m sitting next to a beautiful lake in Montana which is covered in a thin veil of smoke from wildfires north of us. Trump and Co deny global warming. The reality tv show MAGA is running looks like pure Hollywood delusional garbage complete with an African American serving DT. If I watch this s**t show will stay in my mind forever and that’s not okay. Sorry, I just can’t watch the reruns of Fascism. Kids are shouting and laughing under what is likely toxic smoke. Why watch smoke and mirrors when I’ve got the real thing up front and personal. But I will write twenty postcards this afternoon after putting together a mail order standing cabinet. The cabinet will require all brain cells to be on high alert and fully functional.
If this is what the magas want for all of us, I am quite ready to "fight in red states that are loyal to the Reds, fight on the seas and oceans, fight on the beaches, fight on the landing grounds. We must never ever give in to the enemies and cunning foreign assets within." (Apologies to W.C.)
What’s that I hear, sounds like jackboots on the steps of the Capital! First there will be the “shock troops” then another “night of the long knives” and finally the elite Christian Nationalist storm troopers. Shortly afterwards the roundups of undesirables will begin along with the Inquisition of those of different religions. None of this is new, we have seen it all before and may well see it again, even if we have a Blue Wave in November. These bad actors in society never seem to truly go away, they get pushed underground but return when time seem ripe to reemerge.
I'll have to hold a barf bag when I listen. I skipped it on utube because this crowd is so over-the-top nuts. Charley Kirk and "turning point usa" is a religious heresy focused on young non-thinkers, which is what christo-fascism watns, and IMO he and it should be investigated by DOJ. Oh well...people need to understand what the plan is this crowd intends to implement. So sharing is important, but smart commentary also important. BTW if you haven't read or begun reading "Autocracy, Inc" by Anne Applebaum, time's awasting! Project 2025 and the current 6 scurrilous "justices" have been laying the groundwork for both. Musk, Thiel, that Sachs guy, and so many others love being oligarchs with their hands on everything and in everything. The FIRST best way to begin stopping them will be to make sure Kamala Harris, the ticket, and dems up and down the ballot win and win BIG in every state. Magat fascism must LOSE!
As John Salvati states: The word came to Jeremiah from the Lord; The insane word salad that came to Donald Von Shitshispants in this speech came right out of his own sorry, narcissistic, demented, ultra-fascist, stupid ass! Thanks for posting this proof of Donny the Loser's unfitness to be president. It might convince some of the folks out there in TV Land, even the ones who have vowed to vote for Hannibal Lecter, to rearrange their perceptions and give Harris and her vision of peace and sanity a chance.
As you lovley christians listen to "the christian" read this alongside, "Jeremiah 7: 1-11
The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord:
Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah, you that enter these gates to worship the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Amend your ways and your doings, and let me dwell with you in this place. Do not trust in these deceptive words: “This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord.”
For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever. Here you are, trusting in deceptive words to no avail.
Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, make offerings to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known, and then come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, “We are safe!” —only to go on doing all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your sight? You know, I too am watching, says the Lord."
New Revised Standard Version, copyright 1989, by the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America
Well, I subjected myself to that and I’m glad I did. It’s an hour I’ll never get back. I thought his word salad would make him unintelligible but he was a combination of Goebbels and Elmer Gantry. In fact, likely better than Goebbels. I can see why people who have bought Fox crap for decades, and know no better, would buy the mountain of lies, slander, and just outright vicious fiction. He is good at touching every issue that the Foxers have been blathering about since Ronnie. Well, Rupert started way before Fox was on the air. Nothing has countered this barrage of bullschittery in my life. It has just been allowed to percolate. I recognize the lies and fiction because I seek other sources. Many don’t. It’s why the cult is devoted and sees him as the solution to all their worries. We had better hope that there are enough people who are not cult devotees that sanity has a chance of prevailing. He is not so much demented as he is pure evil. With the nuclear codes, he can make Hitler look like small potatoes.
You are right, everybody needs to sit through this. And to the end. MSM needs to report on it. I have refused to listen or look at him because I have had his number for such a long time. I still will, but I’m glad I understand why so many have lost their sense of decency and have sold their souls to the devil.
For others who also can't cope with long exposure to his insane ravings it's possible to cut to the chase, as reported by ABC7 & posted on yootoob 16 hours ago...
It sure is! He reminds me of a snake-oil salesman. I haven’t listened to him for this long ever, so it appalled me to see how the continuous, unrelenting lies just roll out of his mouth nonstop, and his audience just laps it up. His own narrative empowers him. It is so scary.
I haven’t watched or listened to the speech, but if Christian’s and other people of faith really go to the polls, Trump should rightfully go down in flames.
I reported the 'speech', DJT's intent to end all U.S. Voting rights, to the DOJ's "Action Center" & filed a formal complaint citing the U.S. Constitution, Section 2 of the remaining 1964 Civil Rights Act & other applicable Federal law.
I requested that Garland,DOJ appoint an independent Special Prosector under the controlling Federal statutes. Much more later.
DOJ Complaint Number: Omitted
I thank you, too, Bryan.
Thank You, Bryan.
[edited for brevity]
Is there any legal way to restrain the 45th president from carrying out his plan to nullify the Constitution?
Do the people of the United States of America have standing to sue the 45th President to prevent him from carrying out his stated plans to overthrow the nation and shred our Constitution?
Is there any legal remedy to protect the USA from Donald pmurT?
Further thoughts on possible legal remedies to enjoin the promulgation (if that's the best term) of Project 2025.
Paradox: If we cannot enjoin them, or stop them before they have an opportunity to dismantle the United States government and the Constitutional order in our society, then we will never be able to stop them legally after they stage their coup because they will control the Department of Justice and the courts.
Some people might say that the only way to stop them is by voting in sufficient numbers to preclude their assumption of governing power. But we might reasonably assume that even if they don't win the election in November, they still intend to [edit: attempt to] seize power regardless of the law.
Maybe the only way to stop them is by prophylaxis: arrest the plotters for conspiracy to overthrow the United States government -- before they are able to execute their plans.
That's been my thought - conspiracy to commit sedition.
While reading Joyce Vance lately I've been watching for an appropriate context to make the point about conspiracy to commit sedition. I wonder if a retired US Attorney is in a delicate position when discussing such things. I would bet that the Justice Department has been talking about it internally.
How does one do that, Counselor?
Everybody, just Google "DOJ Complaint" which should get you to "Report A Crime or Submit a Complaint". I did the latter, filed a Complaint with the United States Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, civilrights.justice.gov
I have contact with a Law School Professor (not Joyce Vance) who is an expert on Federal "standing" in Federal Court. My status as a California November 2024 Presidential Election Worker solves a number of "standing" issues if things get heavy.
I have filed a number of threats of Violence at the same site. Do not hesitate to report intentional threats of violence at the same portal.
Great information. Thank you Bryan!
Thanks you. And TC for posting speach.
Just did. Thank you for the information.
The Harris campaign needs to use this in national advertising after her nomination is secure. Rick Wilson was loudly calling it out. This is insane and MSM ignores it!
Take discreet clips and speak the truth over his words. Poor deluded young people in this organization. They are totally brainwashed.
I can't, Tom. I just can't watch him. I listened to snippets—e.g., where he's telling Joe to drop out. I cannot watch him.
I understand, but this is the one you need to listen to.
Yes, because he's telling America where he's going to grab us and how he's going to do it. Only the lame brained with no self-respect are going to let him do it.
Spending time in this man's head is crazy- making! I forced myself to endure it because of your urgent prompt, TC.
He pretzels the truth, projects all over the place, plays victim and superman all in one breath...and talks way too long. We know who he is. More concerning to me was the audience who call themselves Christian, applauding and chanting.
Curiously, in a room full of conservative Christians, he spent a lot of time on the Jewish faith and his "building" the embassy in Jerusalem. Did he forget which group he was addressing?
As others have said here, his delivery is so destructively charismatic that it masks his dissonance...you can be lulled into thinking he is making sense and/or speaking truth!
It was nauseating. He is more than dangerous.
I...we already know how abominable he is, Judith. I'll share the link, though.
Shocked me how he is so effective in his delivery.
He was at that moment, at least. But, of course, he's speaking to his choir, so they'll think he's effective no matter what garbage spews from his mouth.
They have been prepared by Rupert and clones. I dismissed him as ineffective except for the nuts.. I see that I underestimated the appeal for some who are vulnerable, but not bat schitt crazy. Like some of my family, sad to say.
Ya, the delivery - really scary how convincing he is.
He doesn't miss any of the vulnerabilities, hits every one with lies, fiction, and the savior message. Jim Jones couldn't have done it better.
Only if you say so, if I puke it’s your fault. We can never say that we haven’t been warned.
Okay, okay, I listened to more of it. You're right. Everyone should. "We'll put a windmill on top of our car." I can't believe his brainwashed minions believe the lies and vitriol that come out of his filthy mouth.
He really should learn how to pronounce Kamala's name.
He’s deliberately mispronouncing it to show his lack of respect for her. It’s just like republicans deliberately saying democrat party instead of Democratic Party.
So petty and sad.
It’s to show dominance. He is in charge of her name. Lack of respect of course.
He's utterly despicable. He has not one single redeeming feature.
Please don't make me. Please!
Made it to the 1/2 way point. He is SOOOOOOOOOO dangerous.
The end is a kicker
Yeah, very, very scary.
I just can’t finish watching. I heard before what he said and I’m just tired of being scared! But I’ll repost it!
No need to vote ever again.
The cult will love that. Hope MSM will report that speech ad nauseam. It’s the flip side (Side B, Devil lyrics) of Project 2025, which is the script for the oligarch’s reps (previously republicans).
Tom, I already know what he's like and what he wants to do to America/for himself and his cronies. I don't need to hear any new abominations or embellishments of old ones. Sorry, Tom. He has sickened me enough already. I will share the link, however, and ask people to listen to it if they have the stomach for it.
I did watch it, and was sickened and scared.
Do it, painful as it is. Surprised me
I’m with you 100 percent. I couldn’t get past the music and seeing him pacing back and forth.I’m sitting next to a beautiful lake in Montana which is covered in a thin veil of smoke from wildfires north of us. Trump and Co deny global warming. The reality tv show MAGA is running looks like pure Hollywood delusional garbage complete with an African American serving DT. If I watch this s**t show will stay in my mind forever and that’s not okay. Sorry, I just can’t watch the reruns of Fascism. Kids are shouting and laughing under what is likely toxic smoke. Why watch smoke and mirrors when I’ve got the real thing up front and personal. But I will write twenty postcards this afternoon after putting together a mail order standing cabinet. The cabinet will require all brain cells to be on high alert and fully functional.
This is beyond scary shit. He is advocating overthrow of the government.
That is what Project 2025 is all about. That and Putin’s patsies.
He already tried that and is still able to run for president…..
If this is what the magas want for all of us, I am quite ready to "fight in red states that are loyal to the Reds, fight on the seas and oceans, fight on the beaches, fight on the landing grounds. We must never ever give in to the enemies and cunning foreign assets within." (Apologies to W.C.)
I had to see it for myself. And now I need anti-nausea medication.
I couldn’t do it but your comment saved me a trip to the drugstore.🙏
Any more like that and I'll be at my goal weight! KIDDING
What’s that I hear, sounds like jackboots on the steps of the Capital! First there will be the “shock troops” then another “night of the long knives” and finally the elite Christian Nationalist storm troopers. Shortly afterwards the roundups of undesirables will begin along with the Inquisition of those of different religions. None of this is new, we have seen it all before and may well see it again, even if we have a Blue Wave in November. These bad actors in society never seem to truly go away, they get pushed underground but return when time seem ripe to reemerge.
I'll have to hold a barf bag when I listen. I skipped it on utube because this crowd is so over-the-top nuts. Charley Kirk and "turning point usa" is a religious heresy focused on young non-thinkers, which is what christo-fascism watns, and IMO he and it should be investigated by DOJ. Oh well...people need to understand what the plan is this crowd intends to implement. So sharing is important, but smart commentary also important. BTW if you haven't read or begun reading "Autocracy, Inc" by Anne Applebaum, time's awasting! Project 2025 and the current 6 scurrilous "justices" have been laying the groundwork for both. Musk, Thiel, that Sachs guy, and so many others love being oligarchs with their hands on everything and in everything. The FIRST best way to begin stopping them will be to make sure Kamala Harris, the ticket, and dems up and down the ballot win and win BIG in every state. Magat fascism must LOSE!
I’m going to read Applebaum’s book. Another good one is Raising Them Right, my Kayle (blanking on last name).
As John Salvati states: The word came to Jeremiah from the Lord; The insane word salad that came to Donald Von Shitshispants in this speech came right out of his own sorry, narcissistic, demented, ultra-fascist, stupid ass! Thanks for posting this proof of Donny the Loser's unfitness to be president. It might convince some of the folks out there in TV Land, even the ones who have vowed to vote for Hannibal Lecter, to rearrange their perceptions and give Harris and her vision of peace and sanity a chance.
As you lovley christians listen to "the christian" read this alongside, "Jeremiah 7: 1-11
The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord:
Stand in the gate of the Lord’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah, you that enter these gates to worship the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Amend your ways and your doings, and let me dwell with you in this place. Do not trust in these deceptive words: “This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord.”
For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever. Here you are, trusting in deceptive words to no avail.
Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, make offerings to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known, and then come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, “We are safe!” —only to go on doing all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your sight? You know, I too am watching, says the Lord."
New Revised Standard Version, copyright 1989, by the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America
White Christian nationalism aka christo-fascism is definitely heretical. Rev. Barber has said as much.
God Bless Reverand Barber and his work!
Yes indeed. 🌈❤️
Faithful America also calls it out loudly. The Christfascist movement has nothing to do with Christ and everything to do with power.
I saw this last night.. it’s beyond disturbing. He says what he will do. And the Christian cult followers in the audience make me nauseous. 🤮
Well, I subjected myself to that and I’m glad I did. It’s an hour I’ll never get back. I thought his word salad would make him unintelligible but he was a combination of Goebbels and Elmer Gantry. In fact, likely better than Goebbels. I can see why people who have bought Fox crap for decades, and know no better, would buy the mountain of lies, slander, and just outright vicious fiction. He is good at touching every issue that the Foxers have been blathering about since Ronnie. Well, Rupert started way before Fox was on the air. Nothing has countered this barrage of bullschittery in my life. It has just been allowed to percolate. I recognize the lies and fiction because I seek other sources. Many don’t. It’s why the cult is devoted and sees him as the solution to all their worries. We had better hope that there are enough people who are not cult devotees that sanity has a chance of prevailing. He is not so much demented as he is pure evil. With the nuclear codes, he can make Hitler look like small potatoes.
You are right, everybody needs to sit through this. And to the end. MSM needs to report on it. I have refused to listen or look at him because I have had his number for such a long time. I still will, but I’m glad I understand why so many have lost their sense of decency and have sold their souls to the devil.
Sorry Tom, I couldn’t watch the whole thing because all his lies just make me want to vomit… and I just ate dinner!
For others who also can't cope with long exposure to his insane ravings it's possible to cut to the chase, as reported by ABC7 & posted on yootoob 16 hours ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGTCKQklPQ
Victoria, Thanks for this. It sums things up nicely and it’s about all I can stand to hear or see from this creep period 🙏😊
As you requested TC, I watched it. Glad I did but never again. Lies just roll out of his disgusting mouth as smooth as silk. VILE!
Yeah. It's tough to watch anything from him, but this one is for us to remember.
It sure is! He reminds me of a snake-oil salesman. I haven’t listened to him for this long ever, so it appalled me to see how the continuous, unrelenting lies just roll out of his mouth nonstop, and his audience just laps it up. His own narrative empowers him. It is so scary.
I haven’t watched or listened to the speech, but if Christian’s and other people of faith really go to the polls, Trump should rightfully go down in flames.