Excellent, cognizant summary, TC. It’s difficult keeping things organized when it’s such an inflammatory, intense subject. Who in the sam heck ever thought such fiction into reality?
I especially appreciated the testimony from Stephen Ayres at the Tuesday, Jan 6th Committee hearing. He went to Washington DC on Jan 6th as he felt it his…
Excellent, cognizant summary, TC. It’s difficult keeping things organized when it’s such an inflammatory, intense subject. Who in the sam heck ever thought such fiction into reality?
I especially appreciated the testimony from Stephen Ayres at the Tuesday, Jan 6th Committee hearing. He went to Washington DC on Jan 6th as he felt it his duty, called by “his” president. He did not expect the call to march to Capitol, but he went along. He did not know the plan to overcome police and enter the Capitol. He went along. He followed tweets and commands coming in from “his president”. He left following command to “go home”.
But charged, he has lost job and home. He alluded to difficulty of being de-programmed and leaving social media. No self deprecating remarks. Pretty straight forward and perhaps accurate snapshot representation of thousands of people there that day.
I can well understand the sentiment and share it. But if we're ever going to have the slightest shot at getting back to "before time" we're going to have to adopt Christine's attitude (further proof we guys should listen to women).
well, yeah, you're probably right. my attitude is almost certainly influenced by the various comments I've seen in various places expressing the opinion that there was something less-than-gracious about the cops' not especially wanting to smile and say "well, okay, everything's okay." or "we're all Americans." or "how thoughtless to deny him his redemption." all of those are comments I've seen, and I think it's very, very easy to sit here, with the benefit of time gone by and physical distance and speculate about how the people should feel who had to live through that nightmare and, in many cases, will never stop reliving it. and that's aside from my residual skepticism, which I've already talked about. the larger issue of how much we should listen to women is one with which I will ALWAYS concur; living up to it isn't always easy. plus, needless to say, it still depends on which woman is saying what... we can all now rattle off several names of some very nasty and UNRELIABLE women (y'know...MTG, Boebert, Pierson, Powell, most of the women in TFF's retinue et al) whose "advice" leads straight to very unpleasant places.
Yeah, I don't think the officers are in the category of people who should think about their response. They have the perfect right to their positions. Those of us who weren't personally attacked have a different responsibility. If we want to get things back, we have to maintain the option of acceptance of an individual's repentance of bad behavior, when that repentance is shown to be more than just words, but also deeds.
Excellent, cognizant summary, TC. It’s difficult keeping things organized when it’s such an inflammatory, intense subject. Who in the sam heck ever thought such fiction into reality?
I especially appreciated the testimony from Stephen Ayres at the Tuesday, Jan 6th Committee hearing. He went to Washington DC on Jan 6th as he felt it his duty, called by “his” president. He did not expect the call to march to Capitol, but he went along. He did not know the plan to overcome police and enter the Capitol. He went along. He followed tweets and commands coming in from “his president”. He left following command to “go home”.
But charged, he has lost job and home. He alluded to difficulty of being de-programmed and leaving social media. No self deprecating remarks. Pretty straight forward and perhaps accurate snapshot representation of thousands of people there that day.
Unita.🗽
I still say "fuck him."
I can well understand the sentiment and share it. But if we're ever going to have the slightest shot at getting back to "before time" we're going to have to adopt Christine's attitude (further proof we guys should listen to women).
well, yeah, you're probably right. my attitude is almost certainly influenced by the various comments I've seen in various places expressing the opinion that there was something less-than-gracious about the cops' not especially wanting to smile and say "well, okay, everything's okay." or "we're all Americans." or "how thoughtless to deny him his redemption." all of those are comments I've seen, and I think it's very, very easy to sit here, with the benefit of time gone by and physical distance and speculate about how the people should feel who had to live through that nightmare and, in many cases, will never stop reliving it. and that's aside from my residual skepticism, which I've already talked about. the larger issue of how much we should listen to women is one with which I will ALWAYS concur; living up to it isn't always easy. plus, needless to say, it still depends on which woman is saying what... we can all now rattle off several names of some very nasty and UNRELIABLE women (y'know...MTG, Boebert, Pierson, Powell, most of the women in TFF's retinue et al) whose "advice" leads straight to very unpleasant places.
Yeah, I don't think the officers are in the category of people who should think about their response. They have the perfect right to their positions. Those of us who weren't personally attacked have a different responsibility. If we want to get things back, we have to maintain the option of acceptance of an individual's repentance of bad behavior, when that repentance is shown to be more than just words, but also deeds.
Thank You.