Let's see when people are done doing deeper dives. Jon Ralston did one on Nevada and has some doubts. But I did send an email to The Times, congratulating them: They have been trying to destroy Biden since his election, and maybe they have succeeded.
Let's see when people are done doing deeper dives. Jon Ralston did one on Nevada and has some doubts. But I did send an email to The Times, congratulating them: They have been trying to destroy Biden since his election, and maybe they have succeeded.
My thought exactly. The mainstream media has done this with the way they have reported everything. I'll almost be happy to see any of them end up in a FEMA camp. But must of them will happily continue their employment when their employer becomes State TV and Pravda.
I agree. This mirrors exactly the behaviors of media and voters in the lead up to and during the election just held in New Zealand. Repetitive broadcasting of outright lies resulted in a three-party coalition swing to the right as perceived punishment for the government which saved many thousands of lives during the pandemic, and our economy with it.
Can't outvote stupidity. It also breeds faster than intelligence, so has a continuously increasing majority.
Never mind, nature will arrive at a solution eventually and, after several billion rapid deaths, the few offspring of smart survivers will be back to learning how to create fire with friction in a new wooden age during yet another blank "dark" period of human history when nothing is recorded for a few hundred years. Again. If there are survivors this time.
Granting that I do not actually buy the polling, I agree completely, except that they forget what happened to people who worked for those organizations when even a minor shift occurred.
If it was Rasmussen, I would agree with you--but this is an actual legitimate polling organization that is reporting these numbers. That's what's concerning.
And I have limited knowledge of polling, but 3362 divided by 6 states = 610 respondentsтАжand
one year out.
Simon Rosenberg:тмЗя╕П
тАЬ Yes, some not great polls from the New York Times today. There will be time to go through the data and point out the obvious problems (youth, Hispanic, black results just too Republican throughout, results not duplicated in other recent polls, how can you be up 2 in WI and down 5 in MI?) but these polls, like other recent polls, show that we are not where we want to be in the 2024 election, and have a lot of work ahead of us.
So some thoughts on where we are now a year out, with the important reminder that polls cannot tell you anything about where things will be next year, they can only tell you where things stand today, and they did not do a very good job at predicting what happened in the 2022 red wave that never came election:тАЭ
I like what Rosenberg says here. The reason I hate polls is that they divert us too often from the basic fact: We need to run like hell. A former senator from Nevada, Richard Bryan, who had a successful political career and is a great guy to boot, likes to say there are only two ways to run for office: unopposed or scared. We should always be scared.
I have been screaming about that too, but haven't done the letters. I have three here waiting for more words. Their editorial possition trys to look a bit "liberal" but the headline and news editors seem to be getting bonus salaries from the Rupert. Pure partison plants.
I keep suggesting we give all we can to seriously effective organization getting the word out. Holding reaity in people's faces might be the only way. Young and rural voters are the key.
Let's see when people are done doing deeper dives. Jon Ralston did one on Nevada and has some doubts. But I did send an email to The Times, congratulating them: They have been trying to destroy Biden since his election, and maybe they have succeeded.
My thought exactly. The mainstream media has done this with the way they have reported everything. I'll almost be happy to see any of them end up in a FEMA camp. But must of them will happily continue their employment when their employer becomes State TV and Pravda.
I agree. This mirrors exactly the behaviors of media and voters in the lead up to and during the election just held in New Zealand. Repetitive broadcasting of outright lies resulted in a three-party coalition swing to the right as perceived punishment for the government which saved many thousands of lives during the pandemic, and our economy with it.
Can't outvote stupidity. It also breeds faster than intelligence, so has a continuously increasing majority.
Never mind, nature will arrive at a solution eventually and, after several billion rapid deaths, the few offspring of smart survivers will be back to learning how to create fire with friction in a new wooden age during yet another blank "dark" period of human history when nothing is recorded for a few hundred years. Again. If there are survivors this time.
Granting that I do not actually buy the polling, I agree completely, except that they forget what happened to people who worked for those organizations when even a minor shift occurred.
If it was Rasmussen, I would agree with you--but this is an actual legitimate polling organization that is reporting these numbers. That's what's concerning.
I'd like to see exactly what questions they are asking people
It's at the bottom of the post in the small print. Click on the
- here - underlined and it opens the whole poll, including questions, up.
Thank you Victoria!
Exactly what I have been saying, TC.
Also interested in deeper dive.
And I have limited knowledge of polling, but 3362 divided by 6 states = 610 respondentsтАжand
one year out.
Simon Rosenberg:тмЗя╕П
тАЬ Yes, some not great polls from the New York Times today. There will be time to go through the data and point out the obvious problems (youth, Hispanic, black results just too Republican throughout, results not duplicated in other recent polls, how can you be up 2 in WI and down 5 in MI?) but these polls, like other recent polls, show that we are not where we want to be in the 2024 election, and have a lot of work ahead of us.
So some thoughts on where we are now a year out, with the important reminder that polls cannot tell you anything about where things will be next year, they can only tell you where things stand today, and they did not do a very good job at predicting what happened in the 2022 red wave that never came election:тАЭ
I like what Rosenberg says here. The reason I hate polls is that they divert us too often from the basic fact: We need to run like hell. A former senator from Nevada, Richard Bryan, who had a successful political career and is a great guy to boot, likes to say there are only two ways to run for office: unopposed or scared. We should always be scared.
A poll by me in my orbit says that people are tuned out, when they should be scared schittless
I have been screaming about that too, but haven't done the letters. I have three here waiting for more words. Their editorial possition trys to look a bit "liberal" but the headline and news editors seem to be getting bonus salaries from the Rupert. Pure partison plants.
I keep suggesting we give all we can to seriously effective organization getting the word out. Holding reaity in people's faces might be the only way. Young and rural voters are the key.