Forsyth County is one up and one to the west of where I live, you very aptly described it. There is no way I would ever consider living there, it’s a shame that it reeks of such hatred, because living up on Lake Lanier could be very nice and I would be much closer to the mountains. Atlanta traffic is why people choose to live up there, there is none. I remember well that most recent march, the media was filled with the vitriol, it was a reminder of what lives just below the surface in most of rural GA as well as the rest of the Deep South, which is why it was such a miracle that we elected 2 Democrats to the senate and gave a gift to the nation. The crazies elected the 3 letters imbecile, and might do so again for all I know, I do know that they could elect a mongrel dog that would be smarter and look 👀 a whole lot better than who they have been sending to the house. I made a living photographing women, all of them beautiful in their own way, that woman in her own way makes a warthog’s ass look beautiful. I got your back buddy. 😎
That was needed on other Substack today. TC’s call of a Louisville slugger almost sent the forum into an apoplectic argument of “go low with ‘em, go high against them” values. I actually own a Lslugger as my house weapon of choice. MTG sends anybody through my door (and she is of sorts with her inflamed rhetoric) and it’s in my grip. Afraid, not scared.
I stopped reading comments on that substack yesterday for the very reason you cite above. Apparently, there are some on it whose "job" it seems is to chastise, shame, criticize, or otherwise call out anyone who has a modicum of outrage over things they SHOULD be outraged over. Apparently, these individuals have nothing to offer in the way of substance, other than to condemn others for having the intestinal fortitude to call things as they seem them. I was so disappointed at that "apoplectic disappointment" outpouring, I just stopped reading the comments.
If I had kept it up, I would have linked with the delightful news article about Anonymous going after the three-initialed hate monger.
I take notice of the fact that, if that post had been as "horrid" as the professionally easily-offended said it was, you, Ellen, Christine and Fern, just to mention the leading edge of the Women Who Take No Crap, would not have pressed the "like" button.
❤️ Ellen, Hand to heart and thank you. The group you referred to, deniers of American history, while subscribing to a historian's newsletter.
The instigator wrote, 'My Dad taught us never to stoop to another person's level. I believe that when we get down and dirty with these folks they have won.' In another comment, 'It's weird to me when people denigrate the US when talking about Russia. I just don't get it. What purpose does it serve? The most obvious outcome is to chip away at an already fragile Democracy. The word I am looking for today is a lack of respect running through these comments more and more. Last of respect for people we disagree with, the United States and fellow commenters'.
As though referring to America's wars in Vietnam and Iraq, to mention just two and our questionable 'foreign policy' in many instances; rebuking autocrats, propagandists and the robber baron-like thieves of the people is as if we DO as they DO.
Another warrior for proper forum communication is most critical of the spoiled American people as though there have been no massacres, destruction of Black neighborhoods, lynching's, deaths, wrongful imprisonment, a rigged economic system, segregation; inequality; lack of affordable housing,...
'I am sickened by the course this forum has taken. I certainly understand self defense but I don't understand or respect the advocacy of violence. Anyone on this forum who thinks the following words are worthy of respect needs to reexamine why they participate here.'
"MTG needs to be introduced to a Louisville Slugger. Repeatedly. Although her face looks like she already made the acquaintance."
'Suggesting bludgeoning someone for their political beliefs and commenting on their physical appearance is out of line. MTG is surely a thorn in the side of US Democracy but advocating violence against her for her beliefs is no different than her advocating violence against us for our (so called) beliefs.'
This highly aggressive critic of other subscribers doesn't understand the use of metaphor or dark/black humor. She attacks with self-righteousness and a knife.
You captured exactly what I was talking about. If she is so "offended" by honest comments, she needs to cancel that subscription - which she says was a gift. I don't participate there in need of her opinion about ME or OTHER subscribers.
Dick, thank you and TC as well as other subscribers telling their stories. The Roots of what's her name was more than I could chew, let alone share my response to the piece of reality TC evoked It's not new territory for me, but my mind is caught in Ukraine. White supremacy in America is vital to recognize, yet, denied as a rat on the plate. Putin has a role here, too. An understanding of white nationalism has not been realized by most of the good folks let alone the indifferent and the rest. Dick, you brought me out and a little closer to the bone.
Truly. Which is what describes what you wrote. Having been born in segregated Chicago, I remain aware of how shallow is the grave of bigotry. Eight decades later I can remember the casual slurs and opinions expressed ... in my home and from my lips as a 10 year old. I still know the words and understand the attitudes of my youth. That we were opposed to shooting and lynching gives little plus to the roots which you allude to for Ms Greene and her ilk.
I’m in IN. The county north of us is White County… Terre Haute, IN used to be headquarters of the KKK and home of the grand dragon. I have friends from Highland, IN … a big “issue” for them in the 80’s, maybe?, was when the fire department became public and not volunteer… because word was nobody would volunteer to put out the fire in a black families home. Racism is nearly as deep here as it is in the south. Perhaps couched in restraint and some disgusting sort of”manners”.
"Land Ho!' You see Forsyth County, you know it and told it, TC. The roots of Forsyth County, Georgia, USA is just another exceptional story that needs to be told and told again. Thank you, sailor.
Thanks for this post, TC. It does serve to explain just how entrenched racism is in this country. It also explains why this horrible woman was elected. She “speaks to them”.
Even if that racist crowd had managed to break all the media equipment, that wouldn’t change the facts of their history. People in Forsyth County were embarrassed to have their real story told. So much ugliness has been buried because the perpetrators knew it was wrong.
I am so glad you revealed the "roots" of this monster. I have shared your newsletter on both Twitter and FB. I really think it needs to be more widely shared, but I don't know how to go about doing that. I am so thankful NOT to live in that horrible county, even though right here at home, we struggle with hate of that very nature - it's somewhat diluted though by those of us who have nothing to do with "those people"! See how this can be flipped on its head? We can ostracize them just as well as they want to ostracize POC and anyone who disagrees with them. If ONLY we could "sanction" them like we are doing to Putin...if only.
Thanks, TC. The gruesome truth is she - along with the others in Congress like her - is not a rogue, but one who is speaking for her constituents. Ugh!
I have never had any idea of the history of this place. Could be they'd be in a race with the city of Wilmington, NC which back in the day saw the overthrow of an elected government of people representing black and white residents for worst places but must be nowadays Forsythe county would win. MTG is just the most egregious example of such a place.
Racism is everywhere. It’s vile, and it loves itself. Read about the white middle schoolers who held a mock slave auction of their black classmates in Pittsboro, NC.
Forsyth County is one up and one to the west of where I live, you very aptly described it. There is no way I would ever consider living there, it’s a shame that it reeks of such hatred, because living up on Lake Lanier could be very nice and I would be much closer to the mountains. Atlanta traffic is why people choose to live up there, there is none. I remember well that most recent march, the media was filled with the vitriol, it was a reminder of what lives just below the surface in most of rural GA as well as the rest of the Deep South, which is why it was such a miracle that we elected 2 Democrats to the senate and gave a gift to the nation. The crazies elected the 3 letters imbecile, and might do so again for all I know, I do know that they could elect a mongrel dog that would be smarter and look 👀 a whole lot better than who they have been sending to the house. I made a living photographing women, all of them beautiful in their own way, that woman in her own way makes a warthog’s ass look beautiful. I got your back buddy. 😎
That was needed on other Substack today. TC’s call of a Louisville slugger almost sent the forum into an apoplectic argument of “go low with ‘em, go high against them” values. I actually own a Lslugger as my house weapon of choice. MTG sends anybody through my door (and she is of sorts with her inflamed rhetoric) and it’s in my grip. Afraid, not scared.
MTG Russian KKK warship….go f*ck yourself.
I guess someone needs to direct them to the plate of cucumber sandwiches over on the other table.
I stopped reading comments on that substack yesterday for the very reason you cite above. Apparently, there are some on it whose "job" it seems is to chastise, shame, criticize, or otherwise call out anyone who has a modicum of outrage over things they SHOULD be outraged over. Apparently, these individuals have nothing to offer in the way of substance, other than to condemn others for having the intestinal fortitude to call things as they seem them. I was so disappointed at that "apoplectic disappointment" outpouring, I just stopped reading the comments.
If I had kept it up, I would have linked with the delightful news article about Anonymous going after the three-initialed hate monger.
I take notice of the fact that, if that post had been as "horrid" as the professionally easily-offended said it was, you, Ellen, Christine and Fern, just to mention the leading edge of the Women Who Take No Crap, would not have pressed the "like" button.
❤️ Ellen, Hand to heart and thank you. The group you referred to, deniers of American history, while subscribing to a historian's newsletter.
The instigator wrote, 'My Dad taught us never to stoop to another person's level. I believe that when we get down and dirty with these folks they have won.' In another comment, 'It's weird to me when people denigrate the US when talking about Russia. I just don't get it. What purpose does it serve? The most obvious outcome is to chip away at an already fragile Democracy. The word I am looking for today is a lack of respect running through these comments more and more. Last of respect for people we disagree with, the United States and fellow commenters'.
As though referring to America's wars in Vietnam and Iraq, to mention just two and our questionable 'foreign policy' in many instances; rebuking autocrats, propagandists and the robber baron-like thieves of the people is as if we DO as they DO.
Another warrior for proper forum communication is most critical of the spoiled American people as though there have been no massacres, destruction of Black neighborhoods, lynching's, deaths, wrongful imprisonment, a rigged economic system, segregation; inequality; lack of affordable housing,...
'I am sickened by the course this forum has taken. I certainly understand self defense but I don't understand or respect the advocacy of violence. Anyone on this forum who thinks the following words are worthy of respect needs to reexamine why they participate here.'
"MTG needs to be introduced to a Louisville Slugger. Repeatedly. Although her face looks like she already made the acquaintance."
'Suggesting bludgeoning someone for their political beliefs and commenting on their physical appearance is out of line. MTG is surely a thorn in the side of US Democracy but advocating violence against her for her beliefs is no different than her advocating violence against us for our (so called) beliefs.'
This highly aggressive critic of other subscribers doesn't understand the use of metaphor or dark/black humor. She attacks with self-righteousness and a knife.
You captured exactly what I was talking about. If she is so "offended" by honest comments, she needs to cancel that subscription - which she says was a gift. I don't participate there in need of her opinion about ME or OTHER subscribers.
Dick, thank you and TC as well as other subscribers telling their stories. The Roots of what's her name was more than I could chew, let alone share my response to the piece of reality TC evoked It's not new territory for me, but my mind is caught in Ukraine. White supremacy in America is vital to recognize, yet, denied as a rat on the plate. Putin has a role here, too. An understanding of white nationalism has not been realized by most of the good folks let alone the indifferent and the rest. Dick, you brought me out and a little closer to the bone.
As I see it, with MTG being one of the prime spewers of Vladolf Putler's propaganda, her story and his are two sides of the same coin.
If only I could draw a terrible picture here, it would come closer than I can manage with words.
Cut it like a knife, Fern.
Slavi Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇸
Truly. Which is what describes what you wrote. Having been born in segregated Chicago, I remain aware of how shallow is the grave of bigotry. Eight decades later I can remember the casual slurs and opinions expressed ... in my home and from my lips as a 10 year old. I still know the words and understand the attitudes of my youth. That we were opposed to shooting and lynching gives little plus to the roots which you allude to for Ms Greene and her ilk.
I’m in IN. The county north of us is White County… Terre Haute, IN used to be headquarters of the KKK and home of the grand dragon. I have friends from Highland, IN … a big “issue” for them in the 80’s, maybe?, was when the fire department became public and not volunteer… because word was nobody would volunteer to put out the fire in a black families home. Racism is nearly as deep here as it is in the south. Perhaps couched in restraint and some disgusting sort of”manners”.
I heard Indiana IS "the South."
I think folks in the real South would argue with you but from my observations your statement seems legit to me.
As I recall, back in the 20s, Indiana was the national capital of the KKK.
Yes and it lasted for awhile. Shameful to me, but a source of pride for others.
Prejudice and bigotry is EVERYWHERE. Lots of Midwestern areas are lily white.
Parts of it are pretty close.
"Land Ho!' You see Forsyth County, you know it and told it, TC. The roots of Forsyth County, Georgia, USA is just another exceptional story that needs to be told and told again. Thank you, sailor.
Thanks for this post, TC. It does serve to explain just how entrenched racism is in this country. It also explains why this horrible woman was elected. She “speaks to them”.
Once again, the value of history.
Even if that racist crowd had managed to break all the media equipment, that wouldn’t change the facts of their history. People in Forsyth County were embarrassed to have their real story told. So much ugliness has been buried because the perpetrators knew it was wrong.
I am so glad you revealed the "roots" of this monster. I have shared your newsletter on both Twitter and FB. I really think it needs to be more widely shared, but I don't know how to go about doing that. I am so thankful NOT to live in that horrible county, even though right here at home, we struggle with hate of that very nature - it's somewhat diluted though by those of us who have nothing to do with "those people"! See how this can be flipped on its head? We can ostracize them just as well as they want to ostracize POC and anyone who disagrees with them. If ONLY we could "sanction" them like we are doing to Putin...if only.
Thanks, TC. The gruesome truth is she - along with the others in Congress like her - is not a rogue, but one who is speaking for her constituents. Ugh!
I have never had any idea of the history of this place. Could be they'd be in a race with the city of Wilmington, NC which back in the day saw the overthrow of an elected government of people representing black and white residents for worst places but must be nowadays Forsythe county would win. MTG is just the most egregious example of such a place.
To TC and the Woman he must obey (maybe, I changed the wording a little) a hug from me, in the morning sun on March 19, in NYC and a Bronx cheer, too.
Racism is everywhere. It’s vile, and it loves itself. Read about the white middle schoolers who held a mock slave auction of their black classmates in Pittsboro, NC.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/nc-superintendent-apologizes-after-mock-slave-auction/