Vought: “We’re not a secular country. That we are a Christian Nation as founded and that should be shared by everyone even if they have religious liberty for another faith.”
Fact: We are a secular country. The Constitution does not contain the word God. No federal law has as its justification what is stated in the Bible taken as authorita…
Vought: “We’re not a secular country. That we are a Christian Nation as founded and that should be shared by everyone even if they have religious liberty for another faith.”
Fact: We are a secular country. The Constitution does not contain the word God. No federal law has as its justification what is stated in the Bible taken as authoritative fact.
Vought: “To the extent that you don’t have that consensus [Christian heritage], you have a culture and a nation that just disintegrates.”
Fact: The U.S. has not disintegrated yet, and if it does, it will be because of fascism that is substantially supported by Christian fundamentalists, not by a coalition of non-Christians.
Vought: told Charlie Kirk in February that he isn’t so much a Christian nationalist, then said that Christian nationalism is "probably be the most accurate aspect of what I believe.”
Fact: This is blatantly incoherent.
Vought: the Bible demands drastic limitations on legal immigration and mass deportations.
Fact: No it doesn't.
Vought: “We have lost the ability in our public square to hear from Judeo-Christian values."
Fact: People espousing Judeo-Christian beliefs are everywhere in every form of media constantly
Vought: The progressive movement under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson figured out how to “radically pervert” the constitution without having to officially amend it, to “keep up with a modernizing nation.”
Fact: Legal rulings from the appellate and Supreme Court as to constitutional matters have been handed down since the nation's birth, in response to new events. The great majority of these rulings have been deeply conservative. The rule of law is not a perversion of the Constitution, whatever that means.
Vought: “We are in a post-constitutional moment in our country. We have entered a new arrangement – a new regime if you will –that pays only lip service to the old Constitution.”
Fact: The U.S. Supreme Court, espousing dedication to originalism, a deeply conservative practice, is highly politicized and manipulated in favor of ultraconservative policies. That is the attack on the Constitution, such as deeming Presidential acts legal if carried out in some fashion within the context of recognized duties.
Vought: There is a “permanent ruling class” of leftist elites who control "unelected bureaucrats, civil servants."
Fact: The ruling class in America is the wealth class that inhabits and uses the corporations, policy-making councils, think tanks and lobbying firms that are deeply interconnected and socially cohesive. (See Who Rules America?, by G. William Domhoff.)
Vought: Conservatives need to become “radical constitutionalists”, “throw off the precedents”, “be radical in discarding or rethinking the legal paradigms that have confined our ability to return to the original Constitution.”
Fact: This is gibberish, untethered to any serious discussion of constitutional law. It is authoritarian/fascist intention masquerading as something real.
Vought: Republican governors should take control of the border themselves.
Fact: Not their job, responsibility or right.
Vought: The current “regime” has no legitimacy.
Fact: That is a fact-free assertion that is so vaugue it is useless except as propaganda (meant to provoke the easily-triggered).
Vought: The Left wants “a monarch with massive historic grandeur and symbolism and no remaining authority,” leaving federal power to "experts" like Tony Fauci to wield power behind the curtains.” An "energetic" President should "bend the executive branch to the will of the American people."
Fact: The office of the President has remained extremely powerful, and unelected officials such as Anthony Fauci have no autonomous power. Any President who sought to establish policies that represented the "will of the people" would put into place a progressive agenda, which remains nationally popular.
Vought: “the hour is late, and time is of the essence”, “woke and weaponized”, "increasingly arrayed against the American people,” “domestic terrorists”, “putting political opponents in jail”, “existential threat” to the leftist regime, “break the political cartels,” “meddling at the margins”, “cast ourselves as dissidents", "the late hour that our country finds itself in.”
Fact: Incoherent, fascist fear mongering.
Vought: Conviction of election interference in a state court is "a corrupt marxist vanguard pulling out all the stops to protect their own power."
Fact: More fact-free, wildly exaggerated fascist fear mongering.
Vought" Put "agents" of the “deep state” [civil servants] “in trauma.”
Vought: Invoke the Insurrection Act "shut down the riots" with no legal recourse.
Fact: A protest, even one that involves some form of property damage, is not an insurrection. Vought is calling for a fascist authoritarian state that no longer honors the First Amendment.
Vought: Donald Trump is a "gift from God."
Fact: A God that gives Donald Trump as a gift is not a God I recognize, and no one who takes Christ's teachings seriously would, either.
In my view, Vought is a fascist-supporting, religious extremist whose statements are incoherent, fact-free and highly dangerous. He should be resisted at every turn. Let your elected officials know that this is what you demand.
He should at least be checked for a brain tumor. At what point in his life did this paranoia emerge and get him to duck behind Christianity as a shield? When did he think Trump was a gift from God, when Trump is clearly a Calibanlike "gift from the primordial slime."
I have to wonder what kind of childhood this guy had.
I was reading something earlier today (Joyce Vance maybe?) and thought, as I often have of late, that it sure does seem like a lot of people become unbalanced over the last few years. Maybe covid baked a few more brains than we realized.
Hey, thanks for the applause! I went through TC's post and pulled out the direct quotes of Vought's, and added a few observations. It is easy to find outrageous things Vought has said because nearly everything he has said that's public is straight out the same extremist playbook that is so unimaginative and superficlal and incurious that it appears that with regard to this ideology nothing will ever touch it - certainly not the facts.
On Bluesky? If not, join. Put each of these pairings as separate (wait - what do they call tweets on Bluesky?) separate flutters or whatever... maybe four or five a day. Let me know and I'll follow you!
I have a Twitter/X account, and an Instagram account, but never use or look at them. The experience of each was frustrating because of the difficulty in avoiding the constant efforts to grab my attention from those in whom I had no interest. The whole paradigm of social media has become so poisonous (see 2020's The Social Dilemma, and it's far worse now). I appreciate your kind observation. Perhaps I'll break down and try Bluesky - I understand it has a completely different form of organization compared to Facebook or X. We'll see. I send out a newsletter multiple times per week - if you would like to see one and decide if you would like to receive it, email me at bertrandbartok@gmail.com.
Vought: “We’re not a secular country. That we are a Christian Nation as founded and that should be shared by everyone even if they have religious liberty for another faith.”
Fact: We are a secular country. The Constitution does not contain the word God. No federal law has as its justification what is stated in the Bible taken as authoritative fact.
Vought: “To the extent that you don’t have that consensus [Christian heritage], you have a culture and a nation that just disintegrates.”
Fact: The U.S. has not disintegrated yet, and if it does, it will be because of fascism that is substantially supported by Christian fundamentalists, not by a coalition of non-Christians.
Vought: told Charlie Kirk in February that he isn’t so much a Christian nationalist, then said that Christian nationalism is "probably be the most accurate aspect of what I believe.”
Fact: This is blatantly incoherent.
Vought: the Bible demands drastic limitations on legal immigration and mass deportations.
Fact: No it doesn't.
Vought: “We have lost the ability in our public square to hear from Judeo-Christian values."
Fact: People espousing Judeo-Christian beliefs are everywhere in every form of media constantly
Vought: The progressive movement under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson figured out how to “radically pervert” the constitution without having to officially amend it, to “keep up with a modernizing nation.”
Fact: Legal rulings from the appellate and Supreme Court as to constitutional matters have been handed down since the nation's birth, in response to new events. The great majority of these rulings have been deeply conservative. The rule of law is not a perversion of the Constitution, whatever that means.
Vought: “We are in a post-constitutional moment in our country. We have entered a new arrangement – a new regime if you will –that pays only lip service to the old Constitution.”
Fact: The U.S. Supreme Court, espousing dedication to originalism, a deeply conservative practice, is highly politicized and manipulated in favor of ultraconservative policies. That is the attack on the Constitution, such as deeming Presidential acts legal if carried out in some fashion within the context of recognized duties.
Vought: There is a “permanent ruling class” of leftist elites who control "unelected bureaucrats, civil servants."
Fact: The ruling class in America is the wealth class that inhabits and uses the corporations, policy-making councils, think tanks and lobbying firms that are deeply interconnected and socially cohesive. (See Who Rules America?, by G. William Domhoff.)
Vought: Conservatives need to become “radical constitutionalists”, “throw off the precedents”, “be radical in discarding or rethinking the legal paradigms that have confined our ability to return to the original Constitution.”
Fact: This is gibberish, untethered to any serious discussion of constitutional law. It is authoritarian/fascist intention masquerading as something real.
Vought: Republican governors should take control of the border themselves.
Fact: Not their job, responsibility or right.
Vought: The current “regime” has no legitimacy.
Fact: That is a fact-free assertion that is so vaugue it is useless except as propaganda (meant to provoke the easily-triggered).
Vought: The Left wants “a monarch with massive historic grandeur and symbolism and no remaining authority,” leaving federal power to "experts" like Tony Fauci to wield power behind the curtains.” An "energetic" President should "bend the executive branch to the will of the American people."
Fact: The office of the President has remained extremely powerful, and unelected officials such as Anthony Fauci have no autonomous power. Any President who sought to establish policies that represented the "will of the people" would put into place a progressive agenda, which remains nationally popular.
Vought: “the hour is late, and time is of the essence”, “woke and weaponized”, "increasingly arrayed against the American people,” “domestic terrorists”, “putting political opponents in jail”, “existential threat” to the leftist regime, “break the political cartels,” “meddling at the margins”, “cast ourselves as dissidents", "the late hour that our country finds itself in.”
Fact: Incoherent, fascist fear mongering.
Vought: Conviction of election interference in a state court is "a corrupt marxist vanguard pulling out all the stops to protect their own power."
Fact: More fact-free, wildly exaggerated fascist fear mongering.
Vought" Put "agents" of the “deep state” [civil servants] “in trauma.”
Vought: Invoke the Insurrection Act "shut down the riots" with no legal recourse.
Fact: A protest, even one that involves some form of property damage, is not an insurrection. Vought is calling for a fascist authoritarian state that no longer honors the First Amendment.
Vought: Donald Trump is a "gift from God."
Fact: A God that gives Donald Trump as a gift is not a God I recognize, and no one who takes Christ's teachings seriously would, either.
In my view, Vought is a fascist-supporting, religious extremist whose statements are incoherent, fact-free and highly dangerous. He should be resisted at every turn. Let your elected officials know that this is what you demand.
"Vought" Put "agents" of the “deep state” [civil servants] “in trauma.”
That is a disturbing threat and should be treated as such.
I agree with Faye Reid; Vought belongs in a nuthouse.
He should at least be checked for a brain tumor. At what point in his life did this paranoia emerge and get him to duck behind Christianity as a shield? When did he think Trump was a gift from God, when Trump is clearly a Calibanlike "gift from the primordial slime."
I have to wonder what kind of childhood this guy had.
No brain tumor, soul void
I was reading something earlier today (Joyce Vance maybe?) and thought, as I often have of late, that it sure does seem like a lot of people become unbalanced over the last few years. Maybe covid baked a few more brains than we realized.
These guys have been "baking" for decades.
At least
Magas have ‘alternative facts’!
Thank you for this, Gary
Gary, you sure put effort into that. 👏👏👏
Hey, thanks for the applause! I went through TC's post and pulled out the direct quotes of Vought's, and added a few observations. It is easy to find outrageous things Vought has said because nearly everything he has said that's public is straight out the same extremist playbook that is so unimaginative and superficlal and incurious that it appears that with regard to this ideology nothing will ever touch it - certainly not the facts.
On Bluesky? If not, join. Put each of these pairings as separate (wait - what do they call tweets on Bluesky?) separate flutters or whatever... maybe four or five a day. Let me know and I'll follow you!
According to the BlueSky COO, "We call them 'posts'."
I have a Twitter/X account, and an Instagram account, but never use or look at them. The experience of each was frustrating because of the difficulty in avoiding the constant efforts to grab my attention from those in whom I had no interest. The whole paradigm of social media has become so poisonous (see 2020's The Social Dilemma, and it's far worse now). I appreciate your kind observation. Perhaps I'll break down and try Bluesky - I understand it has a completely different form of organization compared to Facebook or X. We'll see. I send out a newsletter multiple times per week - if you would like to see one and decide if you would like to receive it, email me at bertrandbartok@gmail.com.
BlueSky is as good as they say.
Hey, thanks, TC. Good to know.