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Linda MacDonald's avatar

I don't know if any of you heard an interview on Here and Now yesterday but if not, look it up - Lawrence Tribe had a number of cogent things to say regarding this third indictment. One of the most important was his comment on what has happened to the legal system which given all the attorneys involved shows just how "amoral and even immoral the system has become" and that all of them should "be disbarred and convicted" for their role in this mess. BTW Kenneth Cheseboro was someone he worked with early in Cheseboro's career but they parted company long, long ago. It is interesting that the 137 house members and 8 senators who wanted to go along with all the shenanigans and even voted against the slates of electors AFTER they came back to the capital once the "poopoo" was cleaned up, were also involved in the scheme. Some of them admitted to receiving the fake elector paperwork. So what about these folks? And the senate had a chance to convict not ONCE but TWICE and failed the United States and the Constitution TWICE. Yes - Pence has gotten religion and it is in his interest to finally speak up publicly. He called Dan Quayle !!! way back when to ask him IF there was any way he could possibly DO WHAT DJT SUGGESTED!!! Quayle said no. That may have been the most astute thing Dan Quayle ever said in his entire life.

I have begun looking at some of these "attorneys" and seeing where they got their degrees. Eastman - University of Chicago. Lauro - Georgetown and NY Law School. Sidney Powell - North Carolina. There is an "attorney" here in Michigan, near where I live, who has been charged with taking voting tabulators - he ran for AG in the state - thank God he lost - endorsed by djt. His office website opens with a plea in inch high letters for donations for his defense fund! His name is Matt DePerno. Talk about a crook. He has two law degrees - one from Detroit Mercy. His own clients have taken him to court for shady practices!!! See where they got their degrees and make it known. The institutions that awarded them degrees should be held to account. Can degrees be rescinded? Wouldn't that be great! Of course djt apparently got some kind of degree from the Wharton School. I remember when I took a course in accounting at a local community college, and one thought I had was - "it all depends where you put the numbers and what you call the numbers." That may be the beginning of "business plans" . What a crowd of grifters! And now Barr, according to Tribe, has come around at last, but of course he wants to sell his book. He's getting lots of air time these days. What I wish people would ask is this: What is going on with the gop/aka republican party? It seems to be fully against democracy and democratic institutions. Even the Atlantic has an article asking whether Tennessee has a functioning democracy. This is where we are as a nation. Don't normalize djt - that's another reason as Tribe suggested yesterday, the trial in DC should be televised so that people can see the defendant and hear exactly what is going on because when djt walks out the door he gets quoted with all the most ridiculous blather that can be said - and it gets repeated ad nauseum everywhere, even PBS! Tribe indicates that a televised trial might put a mirror up to the nation that has been needed ever since this guy took the escalator down!

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RV maxima's avatar

If you are interested there was a good article on how the agenda of part of the Republican party decided to takeover the party and there would be some "housecleaning" with the current moderates-they could go along or step aside. And it worked. The number I recall was 150+ retired or decided not to run again. I believe one day in the news 6 GOP congressmen from TX! just decided nope, no more & no comment not coming back.. I am thinking the publication date was sometime in 2018 from The Atlantic magazine.and the subject was The Heritage Foundation and THEIR agenda for the GOP. I recall Senator Corker from TN comments on adult daycare was needed in the WH. Not much of that going around these days. They have won the party.

In today's NYT an article on what Project 2025 is and what is planned for whoever gets the GOP win in the WH. A really scary agenda no more renewable funded or built and drill baby drill. Climate change? Well no worries they don't believe in it. And apparently just eliminate government agencies, laws...the Constitution? I am sure they have that rewrite ready.

It started with removing the critics & moderates in the party but most certainly won't end there.

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Linda MacDonald's avatar

I saw that agenda tonight on PBS, which had quite an extensive report on the climate crisis and the agenda from the heritage foundation. I'll take a look at the NYT article. Yes - the gop has taken a very wrong turn way back but especially renewed its turn with reagan IMO.

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RV maxima's avatar

Totally agree.

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RV maxima's avatar

FYI My original comment was lost by my fat finger keyboard stroke. Oops!

A very fine argument.

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David Levine's avatar

I HATE when that happens.

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