From Yahoo Breaking News: Former President Donald Trump, a 2024 presidential candidate already facing multiple criminal cases against him, has been indicted for a third time. The Justice Department notified the former president on Thursday that a grand jury had voted to indict him over his efforts to hold onto power following his loss in the 2020 election, including his actions leading to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
“The attack on our nation’s Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy. As described in the indictment, it was fueled by lies – lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing a bedrock function of the U.S. government: the nation’s process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election.”
Trump campaign:
“This is nothing more than the latest corrupt chapter in the continued pathetic attempt by the Biden Crime Family and their weaponized Department of Justice to interfere with the 2024 Presidential Election, in which President Trump is the undisputed frontrunner, and leading by substantial margins.”
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, 2024 GOP contender:
“As President, I will end the weaponization of government, replace the FBI Director, and ensure a single standard of justice for all Americans. While I’ve seen reports, I have not read the indictment. I do, though, believe we need to enact reforms so that Americans have the right to remove cases from Washington, DC to their home districts. Washington, DC is a ‘swamp’ and it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of the swamp mentality. One of the reasons our country is in decline is the politicization of the rule of law. No more excuses – I will end the weaponization of the federal government.”
What's this daughter, former Advisor to the President of the United States and business woman going say about Daddy Dearest?
'Vanity Fair reported Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, appeared at a screening of the anti-child-trafficking movie "Sound of Freedom" 'at the Trump Bedminster golf club earlier this month, in addition to several more visible public outings, including her father's birthday celebration last month.'
"They've been spotted more frequently this summer," a campaign strategist told the outlet. "They've made it clear they're supportive. They pop into meetings to say hi." (Insider)
Maybe, she and Jared will sit in courtrooms to support him if there are trials.
Good. The case has been assigned to an Obama-appointed judge who has consistently sentenced Jan. 6 offenders to longer sentences than the government has requested. Not quite a hanging judge, but close. Ketchup is probably on the walls at a certain tacky golf estate as I write this.
She is also a former public defender and a strong supporter of defendant's right, which means Trump will not be able to complain (but he will lie) that he is not being treated fairly.
The media needs to keep reminding the public that the grand jury is not Joe Biden, the DOJ or the FBI. It's a group of ordinary US citizens empaneled to determine whether a crime was committed and that named and unnamed suspects may have committed it. There may be magats on those juries who could have scotched prosecution efforts, but they didn't. Don't let Trump concoct the narratives.
I would be ever so happy if I never had to hear his name or his voice ever again. Solitary confinement, no cameras, no contact with other humans and his name and visage ever after stricken from the human record.
Actually, I expect to hear that whatever psychiatrist is hired to examine him--when his fourth rate legal beagle team urges him to plead insanity as a desperate, last-ditch effort to avoid jail--will retire from the profession and promptly write a morbidly fascinating best seller providing an in-depth discussion of this highly unusual patient presenting with an unprecedented number of simultaneous serious pathologies.
It’s just business as usual for the mob boss. After all, he is all over the tv and every media outlet. Heaven for the narcissistic bastard. Hell for the rest of us.
This atheist has been whispering prayers of gratitude for Jack Smith, his entire team, the Justice Department, and all the people in our government and country who are still true to democracy, truth, justice, the law, and the Constitution. Today is a sad day for America, and also one of the very best days since the founding of our country.
Unlike a lot of people - and I mean absolutely no disrespect towards them in saying this, because I can certainly well understand their feelings at this moment in our nation's history - I am not really celebrating the announcement of this latest criminal indictment of a former President of the United States. Am I glad that this indictment has been issued and that this person will now have to answer for his actions in a court of law? Absolutely. Without a doubt. More than happy. But my happiness is well tempered by my mindfulness of how we came to this day in the first place. And we came to this day through the results of a free and fair election seven years ago, so it's not untrue to say that "our democracy", in effect, brought us here every bit as much as the man under indictment did, notwithstanding the fact that a majority of voters, in the face of already ample evidence of his unfitness for office, did not vote for him. But enough did in the right places so that a facet of our system of democracy awarded him the office.
However happy I am, I am more *relieved* than anything else, because we now have concrete proof that in spite of the fact that any human construct has flaws, be it an entire country or a system of democratic government or a justice system within it, and despite tremendous political pressures from many quarters and other pressures up to and including the threat of violence, we now have concrete proof that our justice system is working as it should and that, in spite of those who may at times escape justice due to that systems' flaws, our country remains a country of laws above which no man may place himself completely without jeopardy.
If I were going to actually *celebrate* anything, it would be the fact that Donald John Trump will now get what he deserves for alleged crimes of a treacherous nature and that are tantamount to treason against an entire nation, that being a fair trial in an open court of law sanctioned by that nation and to be judged by his fellow citizens, in which he will be allowed to vigorously contest the evidence against him and present a defense of his choosing against those charges. And if Donald John Trump had two normal brain cells in his head to rub together, he'd be celebrating too, since in a lot of places in this world even today, one way or another he'd likely just get a few minutes in the courthouse square dangling from the end of a rope.
I'm absolutely not happy, but I do celebrate that there are sufficient defenders of this constitutional democratic republic who have backbones that the US may be the only country ever to be able to hold a traitor of these dimensions to account. The Germans couldn't.
It's one thing to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. Aiming at millions of citizen voters is something else. We're on the same page, no matter the emotions involved. But I'd be less than truthful if I said that I won't indulge in at least a small dollop of schadenfreude if #45 ends up with 3 hots and a cot when all's said and done.
I wish I could be a lark singing through this night because that is how absolutely happy I am that the lying, cruel, negligent, lethal, schmuck of a former president has been criminally indicted by the United States of America.
quite beautifully said, and I feel the same way, except that I probably have a little more of a taste for pure revenge than you do.
let's also note that the way those horrifying four years occurred was through the miserable Electoral College, one of the two or three most corrupt, undemocratic "institutions" we have to deal with, very probably until this republic ends. alas.
So noted in the last sentence of my first paragraph, saying that in spite of a lack of a majority, "enough" voters voted for him "in the right places so that a facet of our system of democracy awarded him the office." Probably could have been a bit clearer on that, I guess.
As for revenge, it's not that I have no taste for it at all at certain times for certain things. I'm every bit as human as the next guy. In this case, I think the best revenge is simply the proper working of a judicial system created by, and accountable to, a democratic system that the son of a bitch tried to destroy. Cold hard justice is the dish that will best satisfy my appetite concerning all things Donald Trump.
I was also having a sort of crappy, dull day. then I decided to turn the TV onat pretty much exactly 5:30 just in case there was anything resembling news, and...
very compelling reading, this indictment. at times, it could be one of those "Seven Days in May"-type NOVELS, for chrissake.
I have no clue as to how the defense is gonna argue..a bunch of people did a bunch of talking...
and I'm already hungry for the other motherfuckers in the indictment to get arraigned, tried, etc.
does this make me greedy?
PS--I'm thinking that Number Six is Stone or possibly even Bannon. either one could do with a LOT of Solitary Confinement. actually, who am I kidding? I want them HURT. and now I'd better throw some salt over my shoulder...
The United States of America v. Donald J. Trump, defendant
A new day for the USA.
Reactions to the indictment were swift to follow.
Jack Smith, special prosecutor:
“The attack on our nation’s Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy. As described in the indictment, it was fueled by lies – lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing a bedrock function of the U.S. government: the nation’s process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election.”
Trump campaign:
“This is nothing more than the latest corrupt chapter in the continued pathetic attempt by the Biden Crime Family and their weaponized Department of Justice to interfere with the 2024 Presidential Election, in which President Trump is the undisputed frontrunner, and leading by substantial margins.”
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, 2024 GOP contender:
“As President, I will end the weaponization of government, replace the FBI Director, and ensure a single standard of justice for all Americans. While I’ve seen reports, I have not read the indictment. I do, though, believe we need to enact reforms so that Americans have the right to remove cases from Washington, DC to their home districts. Washington, DC is a ‘swamp’ and it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of the swamp mentality. One of the reasons our country is in decline is the politicization of the rule of law. No more excuses – I will end the weaponization of the federal government.”
"Biden crime family" What bullshit! And what projection on DT's part.
What's this daughter, former Advisor to the President of the United States and business woman going say about Daddy Dearest?
'Vanity Fair reported Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, appeared at a screening of the anti-child-trafficking movie "Sound of Freedom" 'at the Trump Bedminster golf club earlier this month, in addition to several more visible public outings, including her father's birthday celebration last month.'
"They've been spotted more frequently this summer," a campaign strategist told the outlet. "They've made it clear they're supportive. They pop into meetings to say hi." (Insider)
Maybe, she and Jared will sit in courtrooms to support him if there are trials.
I wish it weren't so. Hopefully in a year or so she'll have to visit him in prison
You wish what wasn't so, David?
What Vanity Fair reported about Javanka being more supportive of DT. I really thought they were keeping their distance.
Good. The case has been assigned to an Obama-appointed judge who has consistently sentenced Jan. 6 offenders to longer sentences than the government has requested. Not quite a hanging judge, but close. Ketchup is probably on the walls at a certain tacky golf estate as I write this.
She is also a former public defender and a strong supporter of defendant's right, which means Trump will not be able to complain (but he will lie) that he is not being treated fairly.
The media needs to keep reminding the public that the grand jury is not Joe Biden, the DOJ or the FBI. It's a group of ordinary US citizens empaneled to determine whether a crime was committed and that named and unnamed suspects may have committed it. There may be magats on those juries who could have scotched prosecution efforts, but they didn't. Don't let Trump concoct the narratives.
I would be ever so happy if I never had to hear his name or his voice ever again. Solitary confinement, no cameras, no contact with other humans and his name and visage ever after stricken from the human record.
Oh, glory
Amen! His ugly mug keeps being flashed on our screens!
Actually, I expect to hear that whatever psychiatrist is hired to examine him--when his fourth rate legal beagle team urges him to plead insanity as a desperate, last-ditch effort to avoid jail--will retire from the profession and promptly write a morbidly fascinating best seller providing an in-depth discussion of this highly unusual patient presenting with an unprecedented number of simultaneous serious pathologies.
One wonders at what point, if there is one, the stress will become too much for the failed insurrectionist.
I pray every morning, "Please let today be Fatal Hamberder Day."
I want him to be fully cognizant of his downfall, suffering mightily as we've done since he rode the escalator to the basement.
Amen, sister!
Too late!
He needs to go to court and be judged. And F-the horse his whining victims of fans. road in on. Those are our votes he is messing with.
you're hardly alone, Tom.
It’s just business as usual for the mob boss. After all, he is all over the tv and every media outlet. Heaven for the narcissistic bastard. Hell for the rest of us.
Somewhere, deep in his lard-crusted heart, he's quaking like the small, small boy he still is.
😚
Replace boy with bully and I agree
But will it be an implosion or an explosion?
I keep hoping for lightning on the fairway so it can be interpreted as a message from God for the evangelicals who still support this hedonist.
Nice one Tom. Made me laugh out loud.
Tough to predict, but there's not much difference between a heart attack and a burst aneurysm.
Either will do
Yes.
Simply put: I’m grateful he’s been indicted!
This atheist has been whispering prayers of gratitude for Jack Smith, his entire team, the Justice Department, and all the people in our government and country who are still true to democracy, truth, justice, the law, and the Constitution. Today is a sad day for America, and also one of the very best days since the founding of our country.
Unlike a lot of people - and I mean absolutely no disrespect towards them in saying this, because I can certainly well understand their feelings at this moment in our nation's history - I am not really celebrating the announcement of this latest criminal indictment of a former President of the United States. Am I glad that this indictment has been issued and that this person will now have to answer for his actions in a court of law? Absolutely. Without a doubt. More than happy. But my happiness is well tempered by my mindfulness of how we came to this day in the first place. And we came to this day through the results of a free and fair election seven years ago, so it's not untrue to say that "our democracy", in effect, brought us here every bit as much as the man under indictment did, notwithstanding the fact that a majority of voters, in the face of already ample evidence of his unfitness for office, did not vote for him. But enough did in the right places so that a facet of our system of democracy awarded him the office.
However happy I am, I am more *relieved* than anything else, because we now have concrete proof that in spite of the fact that any human construct has flaws, be it an entire country or a system of democratic government or a justice system within it, and despite tremendous political pressures from many quarters and other pressures up to and including the threat of violence, we now have concrete proof that our justice system is working as it should and that, in spite of those who may at times escape justice due to that systems' flaws, our country remains a country of laws above which no man may place himself completely without jeopardy.
If I were going to actually *celebrate* anything, it would be the fact that Donald John Trump will now get what he deserves for alleged crimes of a treacherous nature and that are tantamount to treason against an entire nation, that being a fair trial in an open court of law sanctioned by that nation and to be judged by his fellow citizens, in which he will be allowed to vigorously contest the evidence against him and present a defense of his choosing against those charges. And if Donald John Trump had two normal brain cells in his head to rub together, he'd be celebrating too, since in a lot of places in this world even today, one way or another he'd likely just get a few minutes in the courthouse square dangling from the end of a rope.
I'm absolutely not happy, but I do celebrate that there are sufficient defenders of this constitutional democratic republic who have backbones that the US may be the only country ever to be able to hold a traitor of these dimensions to account. The Germans couldn't.
It's one thing to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. Aiming at millions of citizen voters is something else. We're on the same page, no matter the emotions involved. But I'd be less than truthful if I said that I won't indulge in at least a small dollop of schadenfreude if #45 ends up with 3 hots and a cot when all's said and done.
Yes indeed.
I wish I could be a lark singing through this night because that is how absolutely happy I am that the lying, cruel, negligent, lethal, schmuck of a former president has been criminally indicted by the United States of America.
quite beautifully said, and I feel the same way, except that I probably have a little more of a taste for pure revenge than you do.
let's also note that the way those horrifying four years occurred was through the miserable Electoral College, one of the two or three most corrupt, undemocratic "institutions" we have to deal with, very probably until this republic ends. alas.
So noted in the last sentence of my first paragraph, saying that in spite of a lack of a majority, "enough" voters voted for him "in the right places so that a facet of our system of democracy awarded him the office." Probably could have been a bit clearer on that, I guess.
As for revenge, it's not that I have no taste for it at all at certain times for certain things. I'm every bit as human as the next guy. In this case, I think the best revenge is simply the proper working of a judicial system created by, and accountable to, a democratic system that the son of a bitch tried to destroy. Cold hard justice is the dish that will best satisfy my appetite concerning all things Donald Trump.
Couldn't of happened to a nicer malignant narcissist.
🎶 The hills are alive, with the sound of music...(to our ears). About time!
Tom, I thought you might enjoy this little piece from WIRED magazine.....open the pod bay door, HAL.....
https://www.wired.com/story/ai-adversarial-attacks/?bxid=5e94699a52ba1e7358644b5f&cndid=60622418&esrc=CITIZENNET_FB_BACKCH&mbid=mbid%3DCRMWIR012019%0A%0A&source=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_content=WIR_Daily_080123&utm_mailing=WIR_Daily_080123&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl&utm_term=P4
I love it.
Lol time
*Sigh*
Truth Social tonight - nova, or supernova.....?
hopefully an unexpected explosion that takes them all out
Black hole?
Bury him on the first Tee at Bedminster.
upside-down
Don't forget the silver stake!
Soonest!
If I could be the decider on this one, Trump would be escorted to the Kremlin, where he would soon drown in a yellow shower.
Or perhaps conveniently lose his balance next to a 10th floor window ...
Better yet how about a public urinal, think about the relief 😎 aah.............
I’ve had an awful day! This has perked me right up! Yay!
I was also having a sort of crappy, dull day. then I decided to turn the TV onat pretty much exactly 5:30 just in case there was anything resembling news, and...
Perfect comment
very compelling reading, this indictment. at times, it could be one of those "Seven Days in May"-type NOVELS, for chrissake.
I have no clue as to how the defense is gonna argue..a bunch of people did a bunch of talking...
and I'm already hungry for the other motherfuckers in the indictment to get arraigned, tried, etc.
does this make me greedy?
PS--I'm thinking that Number Six is Stone or possibly even Bannon. either one could do with a LOT of Solitary Confinement. actually, who am I kidding? I want them HURT. and now I'd better throw some salt over my shoulder...