I beat you to it and wrote in Eugene McCarthy in 1968. With the same sad results.
I don't honestly think that the students threatening to vote against Biden over Gaza will actually follow through when standing in front of the ballot box. They are seething with emotion right now, but they aren't actually stupid.
I beat you to it and wrote in Eugene McCarthy in 1968. With the same sad results.
I don't honestly think that the students threatening to vote against Biden over Gaza will actually follow through when standing in front of the ballot box. They are seething with emotion right now, but they aren't actually stupid.
I agree that taking over the building went too far and has hurt the cause of the protestors. But the hurt is mostly (see below) because of the concentration of the media on that particular event. And I will bet you large amounts that it would not have happened had the cops not cleared the first protest within 24 hours of its beginning based, as far as I can tell, on loud noise and thus far UNVERIFIED reports of antisemitic comments made to students. Where? The protestors were on the lawn, not roaming about the walkways. And as far as I can tell even the complaints were about "slurs", not actual violence or even threatened violence. What about that first encampment made the whole campus "unsafe for Jewish students?" Give us some actual evidence, please. Has a Jewish student NEVER been confronted with antisemitism on campus before this?
No, we have to have people who were not even there pronouncing about safety based on--well--prejudice. Islamophobia, to be precise. Assumptions that everyone participating was out to bop Jewish students. That is the very DEFINITION of prejudice: attributing a quality of a few to the all.
Violence in other protests lately has been linked in at least two cases by instigation from counter protestors. And at least one university has AGREED with students to look into investments into companies which support the Israeli government's position so far. In other words, that protest worked. Do we see any headlines blaring "student protestors negotiate successfully with campus authorities?"
And that inclusion of "criticizing Israel's government" in the definition of antisemitism is as much an act of performative 6-years-olds as anything students are now claiming about Biden. "Mommy, that bad man dared criticize Bibi. He's an authoritarian tyrant, but he's OUR authoritarian tyrant."
I'll bet that at the university whose administration agreed to look into investments, the actions at the schools where police were called in didn't happen.
And lots of the criticism is being created by the right - using distortions of things said and done by the protesters. The same things happened in the 60s.
Oh, I remember the distortions of the 60s well. If you were anti-war, you were "communist." So said even my sad sack stepfather, making dinner time rather tense. Wish I could find the story about that university. Far as I remember it did involve tents but I could be wrong. Yelling, I'm not so sure about. But the negotiations took place pretty quickly after the protest began. Presumably the administration hadn't been excoriated in public by Stefanik.
Ah, here it is. Brown University AND Evergreen State College in Washington. I'd seen the Evergreen one first, on local news.
I beat you to it and wrote in Eugene McCarthy in 1968. With the same sad results.
I don't honestly think that the students threatening to vote against Biden over Gaza will actually follow through when standing in front of the ballot box. They are seething with emotion right now, but they aren't actually stupid.
I agree that taking over the building went too far and has hurt the cause of the protestors. But the hurt is mostly (see below) because of the concentration of the media on that particular event. And I will bet you large amounts that it would not have happened had the cops not cleared the first protest within 24 hours of its beginning based, as far as I can tell, on loud noise and thus far UNVERIFIED reports of antisemitic comments made to students. Where? The protestors were on the lawn, not roaming about the walkways. And as far as I can tell even the complaints were about "slurs", not actual violence or even threatened violence. What about that first encampment made the whole campus "unsafe for Jewish students?" Give us some actual evidence, please. Has a Jewish student NEVER been confronted with antisemitism on campus before this?
No, we have to have people who were not even there pronouncing about safety based on--well--prejudice. Islamophobia, to be precise. Assumptions that everyone participating was out to bop Jewish students. That is the very DEFINITION of prejudice: attributing a quality of a few to the all.
Violence in other protests lately has been linked in at least two cases by instigation from counter protestors. And at least one university has AGREED with students to look into investments into companies which support the Israeli government's position so far. In other words, that protest worked. Do we see any headlines blaring "student protestors negotiate successfully with campus authorities?"
And that inclusion of "criticizing Israel's government" in the definition of antisemitism is as much an act of performative 6-years-olds as anything students are now claiming about Biden. "Mommy, that bad man dared criticize Bibi. He's an authoritarian tyrant, but he's OUR authoritarian tyrant."
I'll bet that at the university whose administration agreed to look into investments, the actions at the schools where police were called in didn't happen.
And lots of the criticism is being created by the right - using distortions of things said and done by the protesters. The same things happened in the 60s.
Oh, I remember the distortions of the 60s well. If you were anti-war, you were "communist." So said even my sad sack stepfather, making dinner time rather tense. Wish I could find the story about that university. Far as I remember it did involve tents but I could be wrong. Yelling, I'm not so sure about. But the negotiations took place pretty quickly after the protest began. Presumably the administration hadn't been excoriated in public by Stefanik.
Ah, here it is. Brown University AND Evergreen State College in Washington. I'd seen the Evergreen one first, on local news.