Yeah and that's pretty scary too! We know tfg is dumb, but I don't think he is that brazenly stupid to try to pull it off out of shear charisma, lying, and machismo. Right? He had to believe/know/get confirmation from inside the Supreme Court, that he had his appointee's in his corner, and the Thomas's are in someone else's pocket, who …
Yeah and that's pretty scary too! We know tfg is dumb, but I don't think he is that brazenly stupid to try to pull it off out of shear charisma, lying, and machismo. Right? He had to believe/know/get confirmation from inside the Supreme Court, that he had his appointee's in his corner, and the Thomas's are in someone else's pocket, who or what has been paying Ginni? Bret had how much debt that disappeared? And no one has told us who or what paid off Bret's huge debts. Ginni is constant contact with Meadows by personal cell phone all of Dec and in the lead up to Jan 6th. She and Meadows are there. So it should not be that hard for Garland to find evidence to the full conspiracy. Like TC says, we need a few more flys on the wall to come testify.
And don’t forget, he always called them “his Supreme Court judges” and expected them to rule in his favor in the phony election fraud. I would love to see Ginni Thomas subpoenaed. And if I were Meadows I would start cooperating before he finds himself under the bus.
I can see the "con", although, not being a conman, I can't explain it exactly. I think that is because it is structured like how we think of a terrorist cell. Very few know it all and all of it is compartmentalized. There are lies and assumptions, that are presented by those with more power, higher up, that has been taken as fact by underlings. Hungry for power, Jim Jordon seems especially susceptible to this kind of 'loose' organizational structure.
Its like one of those apprentice episodes. Applied Chaos Theory.
I see some assumptions by the actors and how they may have been played, as they played their part in the master plot. Nobody in the Plot knows what is true, only that 'everything is possible". Ginni Thomas introduces Eastman to Meadows. Ginni tells Meadows that tfg has the full backing of the Supreme Court, this could be only a little bit true. But it does keep the ball moving. Meadows brags to the tfg what Ginni told him. Meadows, exhausted, has some doubt, but presents it as a fact to support Eastman and placate an irrational boss in tfg. TFG gets Flynn back on board boasting he has the court. Flynn thinks, "Well if you have the SC, then I'm all in and I have the skill set, training, and experience to organize it" I think Flynn was running Stone as a cutout to the White Nationalist Groups ( Proud Boys, 3%'ers, Oath Keepers, etc). Rudy is putting pressure on the state legislatures, but so is Lindsay Graham, Ron Johnson, others, and everyone is under the impression the Supreme Court is behind them, and without, the plotter go all in. Just all work your part to get the false electors, get the DOJ to announce "irregularities" and we must "investigate". Get a delay to the Electoral Count Procedure. Everyone pressure Pence. Bring violence if all else fails. Pressure, heat, break Pence. "Just get the delay. That is all we need to get a ruling by SCOTUS."
What if this IS true and STILL true: "Ginni tells Meadows that tfg has the full backing of the Supreme Court." Could SCOTUS overrule a lower court decision that tRump is guilty of an attempt to overthrow the government of the USA? Or will those 3 sweet robed christians forget how they got there?
You could not have written a script any better..it is amazing though that these Keystone Cops have meshed to gather for so long and not tripped over themselves (like the burglars at Watergate) sooner than this!
Sure is! The clown train kept getting longer and more convoluted. I think you have laid it out very well. I guess my fear of clowns is justified after all!
Yes, re: Bret K. I have about 3 or 4 players who rate around in my head and I frequently ask my husband, so, what happened to all of B.K.'s debts, or what's the deal with Matt Gaetz? or... I am an eternal optimist, but lately I was feeling bricks on my wings... now I'm flying again! This is got to be a most bizarre saga, and it just keeps getting better!
I don't want to kinds it but I think her may have rounded a pretty big corner!
Yeah and that's pretty scary too! We know tfg is dumb, but I don't think he is that brazenly stupid to try to pull it off out of shear charisma, lying, and machismo. Right? He had to believe/know/get confirmation from inside the Supreme Court, that he had his appointee's in his corner, and the Thomas's are in someone else's pocket, who or what has been paying Ginni? Bret had how much debt that disappeared? And no one has told us who or what paid off Bret's huge debts. Ginni is constant contact with Meadows by personal cell phone all of Dec and in the lead up to Jan 6th. She and Meadows are there. So it should not be that hard for Garland to find evidence to the full conspiracy. Like TC says, we need a few more flys on the wall to come testify.
And don’t forget, he always called them “his Supreme Court judges” and expected them to rule in his favor in the phony election fraud. I would love to see Ginni Thomas subpoenaed. And if I were Meadows I would start cooperating before he finds himself under the bus.
I can see the "con", although, not being a conman, I can't explain it exactly. I think that is because it is structured like how we think of a terrorist cell. Very few know it all and all of it is compartmentalized. There are lies and assumptions, that are presented by those with more power, higher up, that has been taken as fact by underlings. Hungry for power, Jim Jordon seems especially susceptible to this kind of 'loose' organizational structure.
Its like one of those apprentice episodes. Applied Chaos Theory.
I see some assumptions by the actors and how they may have been played, as they played their part in the master plot. Nobody in the Plot knows what is true, only that 'everything is possible". Ginni Thomas introduces Eastman to Meadows. Ginni tells Meadows that tfg has the full backing of the Supreme Court, this could be only a little bit true. But it does keep the ball moving. Meadows brags to the tfg what Ginni told him. Meadows, exhausted, has some doubt, but presents it as a fact to support Eastman and placate an irrational boss in tfg. TFG gets Flynn back on board boasting he has the court. Flynn thinks, "Well if you have the SC, then I'm all in and I have the skill set, training, and experience to organize it" I think Flynn was running Stone as a cutout to the White Nationalist Groups ( Proud Boys, 3%'ers, Oath Keepers, etc). Rudy is putting pressure on the state legislatures, but so is Lindsay Graham, Ron Johnson, others, and everyone is under the impression the Supreme Court is behind them, and without, the plotter go all in. Just all work your part to get the false electors, get the DOJ to announce "irregularities" and we must "investigate". Get a delay to the Electoral Count Procedure. Everyone pressure Pence. Bring violence if all else fails. Pressure, heat, break Pence. "Just get the delay. That is all we need to get a ruling by SCOTUS."
Crazytown.
I think you have it mapped out.
It’s not that hard. But I wonder what % understand, care, or know how bad this is
What if this IS true and STILL true: "Ginni tells Meadows that tfg has the full backing of the Supreme Court." Could SCOTUS overrule a lower court decision that tRump is guilty of an attempt to overthrow the government of the USA? Or will those 3 sweet robed christians forget how they got there?
As heedless as they obviously are of public opinion, I think they would have to know that would really be "a bridge too far."
Thank You.
You could not have written a script any better..it is amazing though that these Keystone Cops have meshed to gather for so long and not tripped over themselves (like the burglars at Watergate) sooner than this!
Sure is! The clown train kept getting longer and more convoluted. I think you have laid it out very well. I guess my fear of clowns is justified after all!
Ha!
Yes... if Mark Meadows has any stomach lining still, it will be a miracle. And it seems that Lindsey has been other low profile lately!
Yes, re: Bret K. I have about 3 or 4 players who rate around in my head and I frequently ask my husband, so, what happened to all of B.K.'s debts, or what's the deal with Matt Gaetz? or... I am an eternal optimist, but lately I was feeling bricks on my wings... now I'm flying again! This is got to be a most bizarre saga, and it just keeps getting better!
I don't want to kinds it but I think her may have rounded a pretty big corner!