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David Levine's avatar

really, until today, the narrative (which was offered in more than one of the books that were rushed out at the end of the administration) was that TFF "improvised" the lines in his speech about marching to the capital. and people were satisfied with that. now it turns out that all of that was bullshit cover. today certainly did feel like there was something very akin to the Butterfield moment. the only problem is that if the other guys (Cipillone, Meadows et al) don't decide to break ranks to save their asses, it can still be dismissed as hearsay. or at least that's my understanding. it's pretty obvious that TFF is pretty fucking scared right about now. it sure might have put the kibosh on his 2024 run. which creates the scary idea that the party just might shift to DeSantis, who might just prove to be a worse disaster, at least policy-wise. he's that much smarter. once again, I recommend that New Yorker profile in last week's issue.

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T L Mills's avatar

DeSantis is definitely smarter than tfg--much smarter than he looks, certainly. But does he have that conman superpower that tfg has relied on his entire life--a combination of charisma (I admit, I'VE never been able to see it, but clearly it's there) and complete & unabashed bullshit. Drump loved his audience, probably for the applause and adulation--but still, it was a (sick) form of love and his audience loved him back

I don't believe DeSantis has that superpower. He has donors and he has supporters, surely...but I somehow doubt DeSantis has the power to create the cult of personality that tfg did. Thank goodness.

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TCinLA's avatar

If DeSantis runs, after Trump gets whacked (not necessarily literally), all anyone will hyave to do to tar him with Trump's brush is replay that ad he did just before the election in 2018 where he used his infant son to make a trump commercial.

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David Levine's avatar

I hope you're right, and he's overreaching. based on that New Yorker profile (and Remnick's interview online with Dexter Filkins, who wrote the article), he's extremely vulnerable to flattery and is very, very impatient. thing is, the motherfucker's only 43.

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T L Mills's avatar

I know...plenty of time to learn to be more patient and more subtle about his impatient ambition. But yeah... his relative youth is a factor in his favor.

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Cynthia O'Connor's avatar

I'm terrified of De Santis...I was hoping that there'd be so much baggage in Trumpworld that maybe some of the sheep wouldn't fall for DeSantis.

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Cynthia O'Connor's avatar

I still have to read that (right after this!)

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