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TCinLA's avatar

Another communist. Shall we sing The Internationale together? :-)

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

I like Woody's idea better. This land truly is your land and mine. We just need to remember that and never give up.

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Karen RN's avatar

WhatтАЩs football?

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David Levine's avatar

I can't, Tom. it always makes me cry.

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TCinLA's avatar

I Laughed Out Loud.

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David Levine's avatar

actually, it does. it makes me think of my deluded friends who only wanted to make things better for everyone.

but it's also funny.

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TCinLA's avatar

Unfortunately they chose the wrong solution. But they weren't alone.

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David Levine's avatar

not at all, which is why it feels so sad.

I can understand being "on the side" of the Soviet Union until, say, the mid-'30s because there was a lot involved...

and a lot of Party members knew to leave after the non-aggression pact.

then a lot more in 1956 (these were ALREADY pretty hard core) but I'll tell you a story: my girlfriend in college (the Marxist-Zionist one) had parents who were very important NYC labor leaders (her father has a school of labor relations in Haifa named after him). in 1967, she was reading Isaac Deutscher's big biography of Trotsky. her parents (who hadn't been actual Party members in many years) saw the book and her mother was really disappointed. she said stuff like "how can you read about That Man...do you have any idea what terrible things he said about Stalin?"

Rochelle became close friends with the widow of a successful musical comedy composer (Rochelle had become a sort of unofficially adopted daughter of Georgia Gibbs and Frank Gervasi, whose WWII journalism you certainly know). this widow, a very nice older lady (I'm avoiding using her name, although she's been gone a while now) was once at a party and, after a few drinks, actually got LOUD about Stalin being "one of most badly underrated men of the century." this was about 1980.

so no, they weren't alone.

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

You've never heard me sing, I'll just hum along so we can both keep our sanity.

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TCinLA's avatar

Can't be worse than me.

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

Reason may thunder in its crater, but it's clear that the epicenter of the crater is elsewhere than Washington, D.C.

Arise, the damned of the earth.

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David Levine's avatar

trust me, I'm worse.

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