Hang on, who was it who requested an "anticipatory finalization of jury instructions" in the first place? This lady just does not get it. My entire adult life had been coming to a working understanding of what my father meant when he told me "you can't fight stupid".
TCinLA, kudos for the laser-fast posting of Judge (sic) Cannon's Order on the PRA defense (not).
I will pass for now the obvious weasel words & go straight to Cannon's FALSE recitation of Special Counsel, Jack Smith's positions on how & when modifications of jury instructions are handled under settled Circuit law.
Cannon: " ... to the extent Special Counsel demands [ Jack did not do so] an anticipatory finalization of jury instructions prior to the presentation of defenses of trial defenses [ Jack did not do so - Cannon committed this fatal error ] & evidence [that was Cannon again ] the Court declines ... " blah, blah, blah ... further BS.
Settled Circuit Law: " A Defendant is entitled to have the theory of the defense" now some emphasis added "As long as it has SOME BASIS in the EVIDENCE & has LEGAL support". USA vs David Grigsby (1997). Neither Trump nor Cannon have any law much less evidence. This ia an Espionage Act case not a PRA case bozo.
Other Circuit cases are in accord: USA vs Morris (1994) & USA vs Orr (1987) & many cases cited therein.
Hanging heavy, I hope. I just took a look at my email bit ago and saw Joyce's update, as did you. A great break down and then the real time events too. This is going to be moving a bit faster now, it appears.
Someone with more brains and legal knowledge got to Miss Lucy. Thank heavens. And btw it took me a few seconds to figure out "Lucy" but once I said it out loud, all became clear. She'll be Lucy Cannon to me until she's disbenched or disbarred or laughed into oblivion.
The biggest problem with "Lucy's" instructions to Smith and Trump is that it codifies an incorrect interpretation of the Presidential Records Act (PRA). The Orange Rind never had any right to take any of the records he stole from the White House, yet she postulates that what he did was within the purview of the PRA..... Time for the Writ - Quick Henry, the Flit! (But I date myself.....)
I haven't seen the central problem expressed yet. "Lucy" is setting the stage so that she can dismiss the charges AFTER the jury is sworn in and jeopardy attaches to the case, so Smith cannot appeal her decision - and Trump goes free..... She is not dumb, just corrupt beyond measure.....
She did what she had to do to keep the case in her court. But she's a slow learner, so there will be future moments until she gets pulled off the case thereby requiring reassignment, all part of the extended delay strategy.
Trophy Bimbo? Maybe in her dreams she's Melania, but... nah. Lucy isn't on that page of the foreign mail order bride catalog. Try the Columbian discount section.
Agreed, TC, although, I doubt Aileen Cannon has any sense to come to. Not only should she be hauled off this case she has not the intellectual qualification to be a judge at any level, why do you suppose Mitch McConnel chose her and the trumpster of course yawned on. I wonder how she even passed the Bar, but if the Florida Bar is dependent on DeSatan umm Santis, maybe they need to be replaced too
I hope he brings that write of mandamus. That is not, btw, the same as asking that she be bopped from the case. It is more of an "order her to get her butt in gear and stop stalling." It might include an order that she is NOT to approve any jury instructions that suggests the PRA has any validity in the case.
Hang on, who was it who requested an "anticipatory finalization of jury instructions" in the first place? This lady just does not get it. My entire adult life had been coming to a working understanding of what my father meant when he told me "you can't fight stupid".
Mea culpa! This ‘empty robe’ is truly a loose cannon! Rim shot please!
TCinLA, kudos for the laser-fast posting of Judge (sic) Cannon's Order on the PRA defense (not).
I will pass for now the obvious weasel words & go straight to Cannon's FALSE recitation of Special Counsel, Jack Smith's positions on how & when modifications of jury instructions are handled under settled Circuit law.
Cannon: " ... to the extent Special Counsel demands [ Jack did not do so] an anticipatory finalization of jury instructions prior to the presentation of defenses of trial defenses [ Jack did not do so - Cannon committed this fatal error ] & evidence [that was Cannon again ] the Court declines ... " blah, blah, blah ... further BS.
Settled Circuit Law: " A Defendant is entitled to have the theory of the defense" now some emphasis added "As long as it has SOME BASIS in the EVIDENCE & has LEGAL support". USA vs David Grigsby (1997). Neither Trump nor Cannon have any law much less evidence. This ia an Espionage Act case not a PRA case bozo.
Other Circuit cases are in accord: USA vs Morris (1994) & USA vs Orr (1987) & many cases cited therein.
Hanging heavy, I hope. I just took a look at my email bit ago and saw Joyce's update, as did you. A great break down and then the real time events too. This is going to be moving a bit faster now, it appears.
It does. I'll bet it's filed by close of business tomorrow, if not by the end of today.
I would hate to have Jack Smith angry with me, even if I was an angel. This is going to be an interesting few days.
I guarantee you that it was already written.
"I just took a look at my email bit ago and saw Joyce's update, as did you. A great break down and then the real time events too."
Hi - can you please point me to that? I subscribe to Joyce's Civil Discourse, but didn't receive the email. Thanks.
https://open.substack.com/pub/joycevance/p/judge-cannon-gets-the-response-she?utm_source=direct&r=3yu7b&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ibxr=0#inbox/FMfcgzGxSbnRvPwdGFJcxvGPlmJRFZTh
This is Joyce's regular Civil Discourse. An update from 12:03 P.M. a bit ago.
I hope I did this right. I'm an old dinosaur.
Can you just cut/paste the substack url? You have this in Google.
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/judge-cannon-gets-the-response-she?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=607357&post_id=143245115&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=3yvoa&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Whew, this looks like it. I had to ask Linda, the expert. Sorry it took so long, Tom.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ibxr=0#inbox/FMfcgzGxSbnRvPwdGFJcxvGPlmJRFZTh
Hope his works.
I'll see what I can find,
You're linking to your own Gmail inbox, so neither url works.
Moving a bit faster? Seriously? Faster than what?
Someone with more brains and legal knowledge got to Miss Lucy. Thank heavens. And btw it took me a few seconds to figure out "Lucy" but once I said it out loud, all became clear. She'll be Lucy Cannon to me until she's disbenched or disbarred or laughed into oblivion.
Lucy truly is in the sky but the diamonds are missing! Sorry Beetles!
If the diamonds show up, I'm betting they're faux.
The biggest problem with "Lucy's" instructions to Smith and Trump is that it codifies an incorrect interpretation of the Presidential Records Act (PRA). The Orange Rind never had any right to take any of the records he stole from the White House, yet she postulates that what he did was within the purview of the PRA..... Time for the Writ - Quick Henry, the Flit! (But I date myself.....)
The kind of thing that chump law morons do all the time, mistakes, I think not.
Smith is probably going to have to file that Writ....
obviously, that's where the bimbo LIKES it...for NOW.
Smith is doing this the right way, especially now that he knows Cannon is being slippery ON HER OWN.
I haven't seen the central problem expressed yet. "Lucy" is setting the stage so that she can dismiss the charges AFTER the jury is sworn in and jeopardy attaches to the case, so Smith cannot appeal her decision - and Trump goes free..... She is not dumb, just corrupt beyond measure.....
She did what she had to do to keep the case in her court. But she's a slow learner, so there will be future moments until she gets pulled off the case thereby requiring reassignment, all part of the extended delay strategy.
Trophy Bimbo? Maybe in her dreams she's Melania, but... nah. Lucy isn't on that page of the foreign mail order bride catalog. Try the Columbian discount section.
In her dreams, she's Trump's next Supreme Court nominee.
There are Trump toadies far smarter than she, and he's not going to be re-elected anyway. Dream on, Lucy.
Judge shopping is a chump-honed skill.
Agreed, TC, although, I doubt Aileen Cannon has any sense to come to. Not only should she be hauled off this case she has not the intellectual qualification to be a judge at any level, why do you suppose Mitch McConnel chose her and the trumpster of course yawned on. I wonder how she even passed the Bar, but if the Florida Bar is dependent on DeSatan umm Santis, maybe they need to be replaced too
I hope he brings that write of mandamus. That is not, btw, the same as asking that she be bopped from the case. It is more of an "order her to get her butt in gear and stop stalling." It might include an order that she is NOT to approve any jury instructions that suggests the PRA has any validity in the case.
"It MUST include an order that she is NOT to approve any jury instructions that suggests the PRA has any validity in the case. "
What is Paramount in Lucy's
future, if she gets hauled
before the 11th circuit and
either slapped down very
hard, or removed from this
case - one can hope - is not
only the 2nd time the 11th
has reversed her, but the
little chit chat she'll still have
to have with the Chief Justice
of the Florida Judiciary.
Gee, she may wind up
presiding over a court on the
edge of the Everglades,
adjudicating parking tickets
and fines for scalping
monster Boa constricters out
of season.😁