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As I said, there were a lot of assumptions by the Founders that only "honorable" and "decent" people would become involved/would be granted leadership by the voters. A strange blindness on their part, since they were all familiar with the other sorts.

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So many many issues that really were unaddressed (or unknown) when the Constitution & Bill of Rights were created - gun control, for one & abortion, rights for women & "other minorities" & the list goes on. I really feel there needs to be some common sense used in dealing with these issues TODAY! The SC (conservatives) appear to have gotten just a tad bit carried away by their own opinions - just a bit.

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Ya think? :-)

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When you say just a bit I hope you mean utterly out of control. When a party forms a cult around an orange, animated pile of garbage that can say words but not form a coherent sentence, I worry for the coming generations.

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I was being "just a bit" sarcastic! But yes, I worry too.

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That is a strange blindness. Hucksters and con men have been peddling things to gullible Americans since before America existed.

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So true! The term "cracker" originates from "cracking trader" a good description of that sort down South.

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thing is, the guys in that very hot room(s) were pretty much all men of some accomplishment (or they wouldn't have been there) and it must have seemed like they weren't the kinds of guys who'd dispute election results, etc. they should have known it wasn't always gonna be like that.

and there's also the fact that most of what we know about the Convention came from Madison who's known to have tweaked his story a little as time passed.

and btw, I've always thought that Madison was kind of an Aspie. a genius but not someone who had much interest in mastering stuff that didn't interest him. like, say, being the life of the party, but from that point of view, he'd married well. I THINK I'm remembering this correctly.

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That's an interesting analysis.

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We all tweak our stories a little as time passes! It's an in-built feature of the human brain to fog memories as time passes.

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yeah, but most of us don't have the responsibility Madison had to be as accurate as possible in an era without things like video replays. jeez, they didn't have film. in fact, they didn't have TYPEWRITERS (still my favorite piece of technology even if that feeling is honored more in the breach...but I still have four or five of them).

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Yes...read "Fantasyland; How America Went Haywire, a 500 year History" by Kurt Andersen. A sweeping look at the history of wackadoodle dreamers, delusional nuts, gold fever crazies, grifters, hucksters and fervent religiousity of various self-declared prophets and preachers who all contributed to this nutcase country. Thankfully, some strains of pragmatism and common sense survived into these times....

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Oh, I have read it. And listened to the audiobook version. It contains the bones of dozens of essays I am planning to write.

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I read it when it came out. excellent book and a very breezy read as well. I'd actually forgotten about it, so thanks for reminding us.

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