TC, my mind felt exactly as you described Judge Aileen “Lucy” Cannon's when I arrived here to read your piece. I think the reason that I was so clogged up was I had been listening to lawyers describing what Judge Cannon did today. The lawyers were manic in trying to explain how nonsensical she was. Then I read the title of your piece, FIRST, WE KILL ALL THE LAWYERS...and I thought, 'yes', kill them. I can't stand listening to them anymore. The lawyers who are following all the cases that Trump has stirred up are hysterical. Trump knows how to make it impossible to get anything done. That's what we are going through D I S O R D E R. I know that we were in deep trouble before Trump -- but look at us now.
TC it was good to have these few minutes with you and the gang because you set me free, temporarily!
Except I meant the opposite with that, as did Shakespeare. That's a statement made by the bad guy. I'm personally in complete agreement with all the lawyers who are going nuts over this crazy decision because it IS a crazy decision.
TC,, I knew Shakespeare's intention even before you explained it, but as I indicated, I had heard ENOUGH from them! You and Shakespeare spoke to my mood, and I still agree with both of you.
Deep down, I do 'like' you, Gary. As a side point, it's not so easy to dismiss 'SanDiego', which you cemented to 'Gary'.
Okay, MAIN POINT, hasn't all the talk of 'The Rule of Law', along with the lack of it in practice, all the so-called 'cases', in various stages, and all the lawyer talk, become a Burlesque of Law in America (in no small measure with the help of Trump, Giuliani, My Pillow Guy, Eastman, The Republican Party. et al.)? I do care about the law and lawyers. My beloved father was a lawyer and my mother a court stenographer! I considered going to law school...I believed in law, in you, Jamie Raskin, Adam Schiff., Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan.. but it all seems to have turned into a horrid Burlesque now. It is as though 'unreality' 'aka Fascism, has the upper hand. Can the house, Jan. 6th investigative committee, rescue us? Please tell me, Gary, what you make of this?
Jerks, the lawless, the soulless, and idiots abound. The legal profession doesn’t have a monopoly on them. It’s an endemic problem among the East African Plains Ape. What is galling, of course, is that we know how key the law profession is to keeping society functioning. As did Shakespeare. When we see lawyers using their skills in service of hate and greed, it is enervating. But you named several lawyers who are using their considerable skills to set matters right. And there are more, such as the nameless young lawyers in the DOJ who are smartly setting up Trump and his minions for failure. Even if a corrupt Supreme Court ultimately lets Trump off the hook, the record is set and Roberts, Alito, etc. become the next Taney to be vilified by history and US v. Trump becomes the next Dred Scott, Plessy, Korematsu, etc. We have had failed lawyers and failed courts before. And we have overcome them. We overcame them when we didn’t give up in the fight for justice. As TC keeps reminding us, we have to keep pushing back, relentlessly, to overcome the worse impulses of human nature. The jerks, the lawless, the soulless, and the idiots are on the run now. Let’s not flag. It’s tough but it’s not hopeless.
Yes, to all that, and to spurring us on, to organizing and fighting harder BUT, BUT , what about something many of us have known for a long time: the The RULE of LAW favors the rich and powerful far more than the rest of us and, particularly, members of minorities. You know the score... one little example TRUMP & FAMILY for how long and on the other side of the equation -- how many for how long?
Wow. What a load of BS the "judge" unloaded. The legal system in this case is in shambles. We can (and have and will) pick out all sorts of errors and flaws in this and other rulings---but until someone IN THE SYSTEM shoots this down, it is going to fly for a long time and a long way. The Roe decision (not to mention others) makes clear that the new modus operandi has nothing to do with logic, precedent, or law. You just write up what you want and pass it up the line for the rubber stamp. Sorry to be cynical (and I haven't read any other comments yet.) The lawyers on hire to the networks can parse the text till you know what freezes over. Doesn't make any difference, to the process, it would seem. A long story to tell another time, but back in the time of Lunch Counter sit-ins in Durham NC a professor of mine who survived Nazi Germany (his father was a pastor and friend of Niemöller) said "At least the courts have not been corrupted". We seem to have plunged off the judicial cliff into corruption big time. (Added lament: as with the saying attributed to Niemoller, one could say something like: first they put them on some lower court judges, then they went up the ranks, then they gerrymandered in the states, then they approached the federal bench,------and no one noticed........) Sorry it is late, I'm tired after a day at the keyboard, and I'm just nattering on, but not editing. Sad day........
I have no idea how anyone would get their hands on this "judge's" phone records, but I say, go for it. fpotus (or LIC - Liar in Chief) just keeps sowing confusion. That's the whole point. Keep things stirred up then lie about it. We're living in a tragedy as profound as any Shakespeare composed.
"Normally, the DOJ would not move too quickly to appeal for fear of generating bad precedents." There've been bad precedents for 4+ years!!! How about starting a new precedent and follow the money with accompanying texts/emails, etc. to her bench....might find a few splinters.
Let's start at the beginning. A private citizen, formerly a President, is found to possess top secret material which by law belongs in the National Archives.
The law has been broken. Period.
Cuff him now, Merrick Garland. Bust him and demand that he be held accountable for his crimes. Period.
All this dancing around is insulting nonsense. It is not that complicated!
Back when I was a young lawyer trying civil cases, before I smartened up and got into corporate law, I would occasionally encounter judges who would get an idea in their head and run with it no matter whether it made sense. You never knew what motivated them to leave their brains at home that day. But sometimes you were left wondering if “Mr. Green” had paid them a visit. Back in the late 1980’s-early 1990’s we had three judges like that in San Diego. They subsequently were convicted of bribery; two were imprisoned for about three years, and one was put on probation for three years. I’ve read some of the comments here today implying Judge Cannon is dirty. Frankly, I can understand a MAGA fan ruling like this just because it feels right to buttress an authoritarian leader, and push back against a government you just don’t like. They wouldn’t need to be paid to weaken democracy.
TC, I appreciate your column tonight. However I have a problem . For some reason your column is not showing up on my Substack list. Instead, your other site shows up. That is not a live site. So I have to search for your daily columns or keep checking my email to link up with your column. Can you get your unused site off my list and restore your live site to my Substack list? Andrea
The last entry you made on June 27, 2021. I am listed as a free subscriber, so I cannot reply on that site. There are no other entries from you or anyone else. But it continues to show up on my Substack list of sites to which I subscribe. I cannot erase it. And I continue to search for your site or follow the link in the email that is sent to me.
That is all I know. I’ll keep finding you one way or the other.😂😂😂
It would be interesting to review Judge Cannon's telephone and email records dating from the first filing in her court requesting the Special Master.
Do we need any more evidence, Dave?
Not more Fern, in this case it might be indicative of where the pressure is coming from. Right now, we suspect but we don't know.
You're a genius (not like ukw) Dave. You have eloquently summed up our situation! Thank you.
Thanks Fern, you're overly generous.
No sir, not generous to comment on your insight, and Tony did it this morning in the most pointed and crucial way.
The Sickness
It is not imaginary
But you are right. Run this puppy up the flagpole immediately and let America’s voters see the Supreme Court for the disgrace its become
TC, my mind felt exactly as you described Judge Aileen “Lucy” Cannon's when I arrived here to read your piece. I think the reason that I was so clogged up was I had been listening to lawyers describing what Judge Cannon did today. The lawyers were manic in trying to explain how nonsensical she was. Then I read the title of your piece, FIRST, WE KILL ALL THE LAWYERS...and I thought, 'yes', kill them. I can't stand listening to them anymore. The lawyers who are following all the cases that Trump has stirred up are hysterical. Trump knows how to make it impossible to get anything done. That's what we are going through D I S O R D E R. I know that we were in deep trouble before Trump -- but look at us now.
TC it was good to have these few minutes with you and the gang because you set me free, temporarily!
Except I meant the opposite with that, as did Shakespeare. That's a statement made by the bad guy. I'm personally in complete agreement with all the lawyers who are going nuts over this crazy decision because it IS a crazy decision.
TC,, I knew Shakespeare's intention even before you explained it, but as I indicated, I had heard ENOUGH from them! You and Shakespeare spoke to my mood, and I still agree with both of you.
Um,…Fern, I’m a lawyer. I thought you liked me?
Deep down, I do 'like' you, Gary. As a side point, it's not so easy to dismiss 'SanDiego', which you cemented to 'Gary'.
Okay, MAIN POINT, hasn't all the talk of 'The Rule of Law', along with the lack of it in practice, all the so-called 'cases', in various stages, and all the lawyer talk, become a Burlesque of Law in America (in no small measure with the help of Trump, Giuliani, My Pillow Guy, Eastman, The Republican Party. et al.)? I do care about the law and lawyers. My beloved father was a lawyer and my mother a court stenographer! I considered going to law school...I believed in law, in you, Jamie Raskin, Adam Schiff., Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan.. but it all seems to have turned into a horrid Burlesque now. It is as though 'unreality' 'aka Fascism, has the upper hand. Can the house, Jan. 6th investigative committee, rescue us? Please tell me, Gary, what you make of this?
Jerks, the lawless, the soulless, and idiots abound. The legal profession doesn’t have a monopoly on them. It’s an endemic problem among the East African Plains Ape. What is galling, of course, is that we know how key the law profession is to keeping society functioning. As did Shakespeare. When we see lawyers using their skills in service of hate and greed, it is enervating. But you named several lawyers who are using their considerable skills to set matters right. And there are more, such as the nameless young lawyers in the DOJ who are smartly setting up Trump and his minions for failure. Even if a corrupt Supreme Court ultimately lets Trump off the hook, the record is set and Roberts, Alito, etc. become the next Taney to be vilified by history and US v. Trump becomes the next Dred Scott, Plessy, Korematsu, etc. We have had failed lawyers and failed courts before. And we have overcome them. We overcame them when we didn’t give up in the fight for justice. As TC keeps reminding us, we have to keep pushing back, relentlessly, to overcome the worse impulses of human nature. The jerks, the lawless, the soulless, and the idiots are on the run now. Let’s not flag. It’s tough but it’s not hopeless.
Yes, to all that, and to spurring us on, to organizing and fighting harder BUT, BUT , what about something many of us have known for a long time: the The RULE of LAW favors the rich and powerful far more than the rest of us and, particularly, members of minorities. You know the score... one little example TRUMP & FAMILY for how long and on the other side of the equation -- how many for how long?
Your turn, Gary.
Brilliant synopsis.
I wonder how many lives will be lost due to this bought judge’s sucking [up] this country’s biggest traitor.
Wow. What a load of BS the "judge" unloaded. The legal system in this case is in shambles. We can (and have and will) pick out all sorts of errors and flaws in this and other rulings---but until someone IN THE SYSTEM shoots this down, it is going to fly for a long time and a long way. The Roe decision (not to mention others) makes clear that the new modus operandi has nothing to do with logic, precedent, or law. You just write up what you want and pass it up the line for the rubber stamp. Sorry to be cynical (and I haven't read any other comments yet.) The lawyers on hire to the networks can parse the text till you know what freezes over. Doesn't make any difference, to the process, it would seem. A long story to tell another time, but back in the time of Lunch Counter sit-ins in Durham NC a professor of mine who survived Nazi Germany (his father was a pastor and friend of Niemöller) said "At least the courts have not been corrupted". We seem to have plunged off the judicial cliff into corruption big time. (Added lament: as with the saying attributed to Niemoller, one could say something like: first they put them on some lower court judges, then they went up the ranks, then they gerrymandered in the states, then they approached the federal bench,------and no one noticed........) Sorry it is late, I'm tired after a day at the keyboard, and I'm just nattering on, but not editing. Sad day........
Every time we start to think that maybe the walls are closing in on FPOTUS, he seems to wriggle away, as he has done all his horrible life.
To invoke a venerable oriental ancestor Ho Lee Shit.
I have no idea how anyone would get their hands on this "judge's" phone records, but I say, go for it. fpotus (or LIC - Liar in Chief) just keeps sowing confusion. That's the whole point. Keep things stirred up then lie about it. We're living in a tragedy as profound as any Shakespeare composed.
"Normally, the DOJ would not move too quickly to appeal for fear of generating bad precedents." There've been bad precedents for 4+ years!!! How about starting a new precedent and follow the money with accompanying texts/emails, etc. to her bench....might find a few splinters.
What a load of mumbo jumbo bullshit.
Let's start at the beginning. A private citizen, formerly a President, is found to possess top secret material which by law belongs in the National Archives.
The law has been broken. Period.
Cuff him now, Merrick Garland. Bust him and demand that he be held accountable for his crimes. Period.
All this dancing around is insulting nonsense. It is not that complicated!
You may think that, and I may think that, but a judge that does not think that is what is known as "a spanner in the works."
Learned a new word today, Thank You TC:
"arrogates
take or claim (something) without justification.
"they arrogate to themselves the ability to divine the nation's true interests"
Yup.
Cannon’s decision is wack.
That’s my legal conclusion, by the way.
Back when I was a young lawyer trying civil cases, before I smartened up and got into corporate law, I would occasionally encounter judges who would get an idea in their head and run with it no matter whether it made sense. You never knew what motivated them to leave their brains at home that day. But sometimes you were left wondering if “Mr. Green” had paid them a visit. Back in the late 1980’s-early 1990’s we had three judges like that in San Diego. They subsequently were convicted of bribery; two were imprisoned for about three years, and one was put on probation for three years. I’ve read some of the comments here today implying Judge Cannon is dirty. Frankly, I can understand a MAGA fan ruling like this just because it feels right to buttress an authoritarian leader, and push back against a government you just don’t like. They wouldn’t need to be paid to weaken democracy.
But….
Now, you are talking the talk, Gary. The whole country feels as though the 3 judges of San Diego are running the show.
TC, I appreciate your column tonight. However I have a problem . For some reason your column is not showing up on my Substack list. Instead, your other site shows up. That is not a live site. So I have to search for your daily columns or keep checking my email to link up with your column. Can you get your unused site off my list and restore your live site to my Substack list? Andrea
What other site? So far as I know, I have one Substack site.
The last entry you made on June 27, 2021. I am listed as a free subscriber, so I cannot reply on that site. There are no other entries from you or anyone else. But it continues to show up on my Substack list of sites to which I subscribe. I cannot erase it. And I continue to search for your site or follow the link in the email that is sent to me.
That is all I know. I’ll keep finding you one way or the other.😂😂😂
Going directly to the website means you get the post that is cleaned up and corrected, so there's that.