The irony of the criminals now in charge trying to "De-Zuckerfy" the network is that Zucker did more than any other media figure--I would argue more than the Murdochs--to elect Orange Hitler. Which is another reason that talking about CNN as even a moderate network is just so much bushwah.
The irony of the criminals now in charge trying to "De-Zuckerfy" the network is that Zucker did more than any other media figure--I would argue more than the Murdochs--to elect Orange Hitler. Which is another reason that talking about CNN as even a moderate network is just so much bushwah.
Yep. When asked why CNN was giving Trump all the free airtime, covering the rallies live without commercials, ZuckTheFuck said "He gives us great ratings!"
And if I'm rich, ZuckTheFuck also helped him with "The Apprentice," on which Orange Hitler played a competent businessman, and never won an Emmy because he still wasn't believable, except to the treasonous and terminally stupid.
Fern: Zuker "normalized" Trump with the broadcasts the way Murdoch and Fox couldn't. People who didn't watch Fox saw him who might not have at all with CNN doing that, and an unexpected number of them got turned on by what they saw, which led to what we got. If Trump had only been on Fox, he could have been dismissed as the wingnut nutjob he was. The "normalization" gave him his edge. That and Anderson Cooper not calling him out for stalking HRC and asking some questions with follow-up that might have exposed him for he moron he is.
Jim ComeyтАЩs inappropriate comments which violated FBI protocol was not HRCтАЩs doing! Yes, she did not work the blue states as she should. However, since slick Willy became President she was attacked and vilified by the right ! I donтАЩt know of your lists but I use my own common sense to decide on what was the cause of her defeat!
Too many тАШtalking headsтАЩ in the media, both print and on air/internet!
The media created trump and gave him free publicity. He was the perfect candidate for the тАШscab picking! Political operators whose job is to maintain white supremacy in our country!
What are you on about? Is Zucker a friend of yours? The guy was a well-known Piece of Shit in Hollywood the 20 years before he landed at CNN. I can think of three women I know who could have told you stories that would curl your toes about him as an exec at ABC.
The fact that during 2015 and 2016, CNN basically gave unlimited coverage to Orange Hitler's rallies--even spending time showing on the screen that he would soon be doing a rally. Did they do that for Hillary? Hardly. Throw in their other examples of alleged journalism, but that was a lot of free air time.
Do you have data with reference to audience sizes of each platform? I believe that a good deal more evidence is necessary to make a case. What if there was no CNN, do believe that Hillary would then have been elected? Have you considered James Comey's contribution and serious flaws with Clinton's campaign?
Note that I said "media figure." While Comey is a media figure in certain ways, that certainly is not how we would see him. I also think it would be interesting to consider--it can't be proved--whether Comey's desire to defeat Clinton would have succeeded without CNN having done so much to normalize Orange Hitler.
'"De-Zuckerfy" the network is that Zucker did more than any other media figure--I would argue more than the Murdochs--to elect Orange Hitler.'
My rebuttals to yours and TC's arguments that 'Zuckerfy' did more than any other in control of a media outlet to elect DJT do not excuse CNN's role in promoting DJT, but, frankly, you are lacking in concrete data to make your case You blame the media for HRC loss, without considering her inability to rally the Black vote and a lot more. The difficulty of candidates and some of their strong supporters to accept that the major reasons for the candidate's loss has most to do with candidate and his or her campaign is a old story and a current one, under a different guise. Gore is a recent example to the contrary and there are others, but I do not know of any convincing information that would put HRC in that category.
Your arguments were unconvincing to me, and I must move on to our current problems and the US Tennis Open.
The irony of the criminals now in charge trying to "De-Zuckerfy" the network is that Zucker did more than any other media figure--I would argue more than the Murdochs--to elect Orange Hitler. Which is another reason that talking about CNN as even a moderate network is just so much bushwah.
Yep. When asked why CNN was giving Trump all the free airtime, covering the rallies live without commercials, ZuckTheFuck said "He gives us great ratings!"
And if I'm rich, ZuckTheFuck also helped him with "The Apprentice," on which Orange Hitler played a competent businessman, and never won an Emmy because he still wasn't believable, except to the treasonous and terminally stupid.
Forgot that one.
Paddy Chayevsky was right.
As was Mencken, as you said.
What is the basis for your claim that Jeff Zucker did more than the Murdochs, and Mark Zuckerberg to elect DJT.
Fern: Zuker "normalized" Trump with the broadcasts the way Murdoch and Fox couldn't. People who didn't watch Fox saw him who might not have at all with CNN doing that, and an unexpected number of them got turned on by what they saw, which led to what we got. If Trump had only been on Fox, he could have been dismissed as the wingnut nutjob he was. The "normalization" gave him his edge. That and Anderson Cooper not calling him out for stalking HRC and asking some questions with follow-up that might have exposed him for he moron he is.
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TC, I think that it is time for me to delete my response to what transpired with regard to this subject and your various responses to me. Shalom.
Jim ComeyтАЩs inappropriate comments which violated FBI protocol was not HRCтАЩs doing! Yes, she did not work the blue states as she should. However, since slick Willy became President she was attacked and vilified by the right ! I donтАЩt know of your lists but I use my own common sense to decide on what was the cause of her defeat!
Too many тАШtalking headsтАЩ in the media, both print and on air/internet!
The media created trump and gave him free publicity. He was the perfect candidate for the тАШscab picking! Political operators whose job is to maintain white supremacy in our country!
Louis , I deleted my final response to TC. I hope he saw it. It is time from my point of view to move on. Thank you.
Agreed
He normalized Trump with the rallies - showing them uncut and wi5thout commercials and no commentary.
What are you on about? Is Zucker a friend of yours? The guy was a well-known Piece of Shit in Hollywood the 20 years before he landed at CNN. I can think of three women I know who could have told you stories that would curl your toes about him as an exec at ABC.
The fact that during 2015 and 2016, CNN basically gave unlimited coverage to Orange Hitler's rallies--even spending time showing on the screen that he would soon be doing a rally. Did they do that for Hillary? Hardly. Throw in their other examples of alleged journalism, but that was a lot of free air time.
Do you have data with reference to audience sizes of each platform? I believe that a good deal more evidence is necessary to make a case. What if there was no CNN, do believe that Hillary would then have been elected? Have you considered James Comey's contribution and serious flaws with Clinton's campaign?
Note that I said "media figure." While Comey is a media figure in certain ways, that certainly is not how we would see him. I also think it would be interesting to consider--it can't be proved--whether Comey's desire to defeat Clinton would have succeeded without CNN having done so much to normalize Orange Hitler.
'"De-Zuckerfy" the network is that Zucker did more than any other media figure--I would argue more than the Murdochs--to elect Orange Hitler.'
My rebuttals to yours and TC's arguments that 'Zuckerfy' did more than any other in control of a media outlet to elect DJT do not excuse CNN's role in promoting DJT, but, frankly, you are lacking in concrete data to make your case You blame the media for HRC loss, without considering her inability to rally the Black vote and a lot more. The difficulty of candidates and some of their strong supporters to accept that the major reasons for the candidate's loss has most to do with candidate and his or her campaign is a old story and a current one, under a different guise. Gore is a recent example to the contrary and there are others, but I do not know of any convincing information that would put HRC in that category.
Your arguments were unconvincing to me, and I must move on to our current problems and the US Tennis Open.
I'm so sorry that I couldn't convince you.