Some food for thought, republished from the New Yorker: This 27-year-old Venezuelan man was one of 50 migrants taken to Martha’s Vineyard from San Antonio, Texas, under the direction of Florida governor Ron DeSantis. He n is currently facing multiple lawsuits claiming he lured the migrants to Martha’s Vineyard under false pretenses and violated Florida law by using state funds to transport them as a means of protesting President Biden’s border policies.
I'm with you TC, enraged past words except every swear word I can recall, which I spit out in between sobs at the deliberately evil cruelty of the whole situation. I hate them for thinking it's acceptable to use desperate people as stage props in their Theater of the Aggrieved.
If they ever took their heads out of their asses, left 'Murica, and looked at the rest of the world they'd see people are pretty much the same everywhere. They want to be safe from violence, work, eat, have a roof over their head, and enjoy their friends and family. It's a pity that so many are so deliberately and wilfully ignorant and cruel.
….the country was founded by migrants. Migrant County - that is the USA; THE MIGRANT COUNTRY. I saw my family in A MIGRANT'S TALE, my husband's family, and the families of my friends, the families of the people around me and across the country. The details of our journeys to America are different in time, danger and hardship, but we are all the same. This is who we are. Kind people help us along the way, just as there are devils to make the journey harder or impossible.
In honoring the founding of our country a special place of distinction belongs to Native Americans.
Horrific but not surprising. This is no different than the attitudes that gave us the Third Reich. To use these innocent people as political pawns suggests such inhumanity and hate.
There NOTHING "Christian" about Abbott and Deathsantis. They are monsters. They should be forced to make that trip themselves. Don't worry Greg, we'll get some knobby tires for your wheel chair.
It literally made me sick to listen to him during the Hurricane crisis watching him surrounding himself with EOC experts from diff locales and trying to be a “man of the moment and of the people”. He initially complained that President Biden did not call him and chose instead to call specific mayors on west coast. This of course was not correct and President Biden was efficient in activating FEMA and all resources before the prick Ian ever got here. Desantis is missing an important component in his psyche that will always prevent him from the necessary compassion to serve the people and not merely the interests that benefit him.
The “migrant scam” is so disgusting that it is hard for any of us that live here to acknowledge our state’s part in the disgrace.
Do not see how Charlie Crist can succeed in toppling him from his bully pulpit but we are working hard in Florida supporting Crist and Val Demings to replace the brat Rubio.
Please continue your support to the people of Florida. This storm was a pretty clear message of how pissed off Mother Nature is about our recklessness.
To give some relevance to how dire the situation is, in my county, 198k customers are served by FL Power and Light. 136k customers are without power at this moment. Several of us went around collecting food from people who have no refrigeration and taking it to the food centers that are preparing meals. Unconventional methods but good to see people coming together in community instead of insisting on “rugged individualism” and not appearing woke and weak. Honestly, I can just slap the shit and nonsense out of some people.
Crisis and disaster has a way of enhancing our humanness instead of our salaries and station in life.
I heard DeSantis describe the flooding in Ft. Myers’s as of “Biblical proportions.” Hmmmm? God’s punishment for climate denialism? For using immigrants as pawns? Or is he just referencing the Bible for credibility with his self-described Christian supporters?
Like I said: Voters who align themselves with fascist bigots like Death Santis or Greg Abbott get no sympathy from me when they are faced with consequences. Climate change denier? Won’t invest in hurricane insurance? Medical insurance? Don’t give a crap for democratic values? THEY WERE WARNED. Well who’s the snowflake now?
Three of four of my grandparents were immigrants from two sides of the planet, one from Japan and two from a country that didn’t exist at that time but was part of the Russian Empire. My maternal grandmother was born on the island of Hawaii, which was part of a territory of the U.S., to two immigrant contract laborers working on a sugar plantation. All that they wanted was a better life for themselves and their children, so they came to a foreign country to take their chances because it was better than what they had back in the old countries. Same with the poor immigrants coming now, looking for a better life and willing to work for that chance, the only difference between them and my grandparents is that now, the immigrants are being used as pawns in some stupid political game by heartless excuses for human beings devoid of compassion and empathy towards those less fortunate than themselves…
The headline that I saw when chump was first changing the American narrative, is as fitting now as then. THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT. Shame on those who do this in the name of America and all of us.
May the country he struggled to arrive at be a land of opportunity for him after the midterms, and may all who participated in this cruelty somehow be severely punished.
My view is that we are all human beings. People have been migrating around this planet for tens of thousands of years. For millennia some of our ancestors focused on living in harmony with nature and others focused on technology . Often the development of new technology seems to have been associated with very aggressive tendencies and cultures focused on domination, elitism, empire building ,oppression and war-fare. Colonization , invasion oppression and empire building do not reliably lead to peace and prosperity. Prior to the arrival of disease ridden colonists fleeing disease ridden western Europe, there were Indigenous peoples living in the Americas. There were many different cultures. Some were peaceful and some were warlike and many had high levels of ecological knowledge such that their people lived long healthy lives. At this time in our human history we need to make peace with nature, the natural world and with each other. Authoritarian collectivism does not work, which is why people are now starving in Venezuela. Extreme entitlement and elitism are the curse of humanity. We have both a competitive and a collaborative side to our nature. To live long healthy lives we need to co-create cultures , societies and ways of living that accept diversity and that focus on flourishing of people and nature. Abbott and De Santis model their behaviours on the brutal King Herod, the slimey Pontius Pilate and the entitled elite of Judea in the first century. "The Politics of Jesus" is very well articulated by Prof. Obery M. Hendricks jn. It is such a pity that these chest thumping antichrists clearly have never actually read the Gospel and if they have, they somehow managed to entirely miss the message of the Rabbi from Nazareth . I send my deep gratitude to the people who helped this man .I hope that he gets to his hearing and that he and the others are all successful , become citizens, reunite with their families and find ways to support democracy where they are now and in their homeland.
I have never in my life heard of anything the likes of what DeSantis and Abbott have done to these people who trusted that they were in good hands. It's not one of America's finer moments, and damn it, I wonder when some of these mealy mouthed politicians will speak up about it. They're probably more concerned about the midterms, but wrong is wrong. And where is our Dept. of Justice in this? Human trafficking is a crime, kidnapping is a crime, and it shouldn't matter who commits these offenses, or why.
The man in the New Yorker piece is a hero. He moved heaven and earth to get to the US, hoping that he would be able to earn money for his family, while every day I hear people piss and moan about how they're "struggling." Most of them are up to their eyeballs in credit card debt because they had to have a lot of stuff that sits in their houses collecting dust. They drive $50,000 SUVs and whine about the price of gas. Why is DeSantis so resentful of immigrants? Is he afraid they'll steal his fancy yacht?
It’s important to show clearly the fraud and deceit of DeSatan and his henchmen. These are real people they are intentionally harming. Real people who are brave, determined, and imbued with hope. They are not criminals. They are not statistics.
Most of us are in the US because our ancestors had "come from away", including Desantis's family. I'm so grateful for the good people of Martha's Vineyard who opened their hearts and homes to support the refugees.
I'm with you TC, enraged past words except every swear word I can recall, which I spit out in between sobs at the deliberately evil cruelty of the whole situation. I hate them for thinking it's acceptable to use desperate people as stage props in their Theater of the Aggrieved.
If they ever took their heads out of their asses, left 'Murica, and looked at the rest of the world they'd see people are pretty much the same everywhere. They want to be safe from violence, work, eat, have a roof over their head, and enjoy their friends and family. It's a pity that so many are so deliberately and wilfully ignorant and cruel.
….the country was founded by migrants. Migrant County - that is the USA; THE MIGRANT COUNTRY. I saw my family in A MIGRANT'S TALE, my husband's family, and the families of my friends, the families of the people around me and across the country. The details of our journeys to America are different in time, danger and hardship, but we are all the same. This is who we are. Kind people help us along the way, just as there are devils to make the journey harder or impossible.
In honoring the founding of our country a special place of distinction belongs to Native Americans.
Horrific but not surprising. This is no different than the attitudes that gave us the Third Reich. To use these innocent people as political pawns suggests such inhumanity and hate.
There NOTHING "Christian" about Abbott and Deathsantis. They are monsters. They should be forced to make that trip themselves. Don't worry Greg, we'll get some knobby tires for your wheel chair.
It literally made me sick to listen to him during the Hurricane crisis watching him surrounding himself with EOC experts from diff locales and trying to be a “man of the moment and of the people”. He initially complained that President Biden did not call him and chose instead to call specific mayors on west coast. This of course was not correct and President Biden was efficient in activating FEMA and all resources before the prick Ian ever got here. Desantis is missing an important component in his psyche that will always prevent him from the necessary compassion to serve the people and not merely the interests that benefit him.
The “migrant scam” is so disgusting that it is hard for any of us that live here to acknowledge our state’s part in the disgrace.
Do not see how Charlie Crist can succeed in toppling him from his bully pulpit but we are working hard in Florida supporting Crist and Val Demings to replace the brat Rubio.
Please continue your support to the people of Florida. This storm was a pretty clear message of how pissed off Mother Nature is about our recklessness.
To give some relevance to how dire the situation is, in my county, 198k customers are served by FL Power and Light. 136k customers are without power at this moment. Several of us went around collecting food from people who have no refrigeration and taking it to the food centers that are preparing meals. Unconventional methods but good to see people coming together in community instead of insisting on “rugged individualism” and not appearing woke and weak. Honestly, I can just slap the shit and nonsense out of some people.
Crisis and disaster has a way of enhancing our humanness instead of our salaries and station in life.
Unita! 🗽
I heard DeSantis describe the flooding in Ft. Myers’s as of “Biblical proportions.” Hmmmm? God’s punishment for climate denialism? For using immigrants as pawns? Or is he just referencing the Bible for credibility with his self-described Christian supporters?
Like I said: Voters who align themselves with fascist bigots like Death Santis or Greg Abbott get no sympathy from me when they are faced with consequences. Climate change denier? Won’t invest in hurricane insurance? Medical insurance? Don’t give a crap for democratic values? THEY WERE WARNED. Well who’s the snowflake now?
Three of four of my grandparents were immigrants from two sides of the planet, one from Japan and two from a country that didn’t exist at that time but was part of the Russian Empire. My maternal grandmother was born on the island of Hawaii, which was part of a territory of the U.S., to two immigrant contract laborers working on a sugar plantation. All that they wanted was a better life for themselves and their children, so they came to a foreign country to take their chances because it was better than what they had back in the old countries. Same with the poor immigrants coming now, looking for a better life and willing to work for that chance, the only difference between them and my grandparents is that now, the immigrants are being used as pawns in some stupid political game by heartless excuses for human beings devoid of compassion and empathy towards those less fortunate than themselves…
The headline that I saw when chump was first changing the American narrative, is as fitting now as then. THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT. Shame on those who do this in the name of America and all of us.
May the country he struggled to arrive at be a land of opportunity for him after the midterms, and may all who participated in this cruelty somehow be severely punished.
My view is that we are all human beings. People have been migrating around this planet for tens of thousands of years. For millennia some of our ancestors focused on living in harmony with nature and others focused on technology . Often the development of new technology seems to have been associated with very aggressive tendencies and cultures focused on domination, elitism, empire building ,oppression and war-fare. Colonization , invasion oppression and empire building do not reliably lead to peace and prosperity. Prior to the arrival of disease ridden colonists fleeing disease ridden western Europe, there were Indigenous peoples living in the Americas. There were many different cultures. Some were peaceful and some were warlike and many had high levels of ecological knowledge such that their people lived long healthy lives. At this time in our human history we need to make peace with nature, the natural world and with each other. Authoritarian collectivism does not work, which is why people are now starving in Venezuela. Extreme entitlement and elitism are the curse of humanity. We have both a competitive and a collaborative side to our nature. To live long healthy lives we need to co-create cultures , societies and ways of living that accept diversity and that focus on flourishing of people and nature. Abbott and De Santis model their behaviours on the brutal King Herod, the slimey Pontius Pilate and the entitled elite of Judea in the first century. "The Politics of Jesus" is very well articulated by Prof. Obery M. Hendricks jn. It is such a pity that these chest thumping antichrists clearly have never actually read the Gospel and if they have, they somehow managed to entirely miss the message of the Rabbi from Nazareth . I send my deep gratitude to the people who helped this man .I hope that he gets to his hearing and that he and the others are all successful , become citizens, reunite with their families and find ways to support democracy where they are now and in their homeland.
I have never in my life heard of anything the likes of what DeSantis and Abbott have done to these people who trusted that they were in good hands. It's not one of America's finer moments, and damn it, I wonder when some of these mealy mouthed politicians will speak up about it. They're probably more concerned about the midterms, but wrong is wrong. And where is our Dept. of Justice in this? Human trafficking is a crime, kidnapping is a crime, and it shouldn't matter who commits these offenses, or why.
The man in the New Yorker piece is a hero. He moved heaven and earth to get to the US, hoping that he would be able to earn money for his family, while every day I hear people piss and moan about how they're "struggling." Most of them are up to their eyeballs in credit card debt because they had to have a lot of stuff that sits in their houses collecting dust. They drive $50,000 SUVs and whine about the price of gas. Why is DeSantis so resentful of immigrants? Is he afraid they'll steal his fancy yacht?
Thank You for forwarding this TC. Makes it so real. So wrenchingly real.
It’s important to show clearly the fraud and deceit of DeSatan and his henchmen. These are real people they are intentionally harming. Real people who are brave, determined, and imbued with hope. They are not criminals. They are not statistics.
Lucky to have been brought to Massachusetts. Escaped the Shithole Texas. Backfired on the idiot governor DorkSantis!
I would like to recommend a novel “North” by Brad Kessler about a Somali woman immigrating to the US.
Most of us are in the US because our ancestors had "come from away", including Desantis's family. I'm so grateful for the good people of Martha's Vineyard who opened their hearts and homes to support the refugees.